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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2796920
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Fair enough.

I understand your point on things.


STOP POTATO HATE!
Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2796930
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: John_Kunkel] #2797035
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I agree with the above about science.

“Science” has not yet happened with one experiment.

At a minimum, the first experiment’s result has to be “replicated” by another experiment done exactly the same way but by another independent group of people.

Today there is worldwide rough agreement that 20 additional independent experiments must be run and 19 of those experiments must agree with the original experiment. This is the 19 of 20 “confidence level” or 19/20 times 100% = 95% confidence

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2797040
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by Mr. Potatohead




Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by skicker
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Yes Potatohead I would do EVERYTHING I could do to protect her. But I sure as heck wouldn't let it consume my life and turn me into a housebound copy and pastier. This virus has done more mental harm than it has physical harm.


You keep throwing out an attempted insult of “copy and paster”

As someone who has also gotten flack from writing long self-written moparts posts,
would you prefer I go back to writing a few hundred original words per thread?

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2797057
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Heparin,
a common, cheap, already FDA approved drug
may treat Covid-19 virus
by blocking the “spike” the virus uses to attach to the human ACE2 receptor on cells.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-common-fda-approved-drug-effectively-neutralize.html

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SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, uses a surface spike protein to latch onto human cells and initiate infection. But heparin, a blood thinner also available in non-anticoagulant varieties, binds tightly with the surface spike protein, potentially blocking the infection from happening. This makes it a decoy, which might be introduced into the body using a nasal spray or nebulizer and run interference to lower the odds of infection. Similar decoy strategies have already shown promise in curbing other viruses, including influenza A, Zika, and dengue.

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This is further good news to go along with
Famotidine (PepcidAC)
Raloxifene (Evista)
and the cheap steroid
Dexamethasone

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2797062
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Healthy young adults below age 50 survive Covid-19 better than influenza virus,
but 1 in 3 young adults have a pre-existing condition that could make Covid-19 fatal or permanently injurious.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-young-adults-higher-severe-covid.html

It seems to me that a young adult could have no pre-existing conditions mentioned in the article,
but if their immune system is circulating an above average amount of the allergy related Cytokine named IL-13
mentioned in a previous post
they could die from a “Cytokine Storm” over-reaction.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2797072
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Old cholesterol-lowering drug Fenofibrate (Tricor)
may treat Covid-19

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-cholesterol-lowering-meds-potential-downgrade-covid-.html

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With this information in hand, Nahmias and tenOever began to screen FDA-approved medications that interfere with the virus' ability to reproduce. In lab studies, the cholesterol-lowering drug Fenofibrate (Tricor) showed extremely promising results. By allowing lung cells to burn more fat, fenofibrate breaks the virus' grip on these cells, and prevents SARS CoV-2's ability to reproduce. In fact, within only five days of treatment, the virus almost completely disappeared.

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Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: 360view] #2797077
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Popular heartburn medications such as
Prilosec (omeprazole) and
Nexium (esomeprazole)
may inadvertently up your chances of catching COVID-19,
new research suggests.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-common-heartburn-drugs-tied-higher.html

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An online survey of more than 53,000 Americans, all with a history of acid reflux, heartburn or GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease) found that many took a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to lower stomach acid levels.

Here's the bad news: More than 6% of the respondents also said they had tested positive for COVID. So the study team compared COVID diagnoses with medication habits.

The result: Those taking a PPI once a day saw their risk for contracting COVID double. Those taking a PPI twice a day saw their COVID infection risk nearly quadruple.
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There was a twist, however: Higher COVID risk was not seen among patients taking an alternative class of heartburn meds known as histamine-2 receptor antagonists (H2RAs). These include Pepcid (famotidine), Axid (nizatidine) and Tagamet (cimetidine).

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Moderna vaccine shows good early results

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-experimental-covid-vaccine-safe-immune.html

An investigational vaccine, mRNA-1273, designed to protect against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), was generally well tolerated and prompted neutralizing antibody activity in healthy adults, according to interim results published online today in The New England Journal of Medicine.
The ongoing Phase 1 trial is supported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. The experimental vaccine is being co-developed by researchers at NIAID and at Moderna, Inc. of Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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Even among the very old in nursing homes,
as many as 55%
had undetected Covid-19 but showed no symptoms

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-universal-covid-infections-deaths-long-term.html

To reduce spread, all residents and staff should ideally be tested.

Re: The official Coronavirus thread [Re: pittsburghracer] #2797156
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by skicker
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And for this I'm going to HIDE in my house like a coward and end up in a mental home from FEAR of living.


Actually, IMO, you appear by your replies here, to mostly fear being accused of being in fear, hiding, mentally unstable, and called a coward. I maybe wrong and welcome any real evidence to prove otherwise.

I have shared mine.

Some of us still think along the lines of "Stick and stones.............", and don't care about others neurosis and self serving "projection" claims.

Actually I'm sorry I had to make this point, but it might be a learning moment.

"What Is Projection?
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another"

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Wall Street Journal on Thursday July 16 has an article:

“Bursting Hospitals Compound Risks For Virus Patients”

Everyone needs to think through “what supplies and medicines should I try to get now to treat my family or myself at home.”

Not just Covid-19,
but other potential diseases
or pre-existing illnesses.

While this surge of younger people getting ill is going through,
going to the ER or hospital will be more iffy.

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I'm pretty sure the whole Covid 19 thing will be moved to the dumpster file of history as soon as the msm can no longer profit from hyping it. First week of November comes immediately to mind, but they may bring it back off and on to keep people in fear whenever they think it might be useful. The virus is real, but so is Tuesday, and so is herpes, but the entire economy isn't shut down for Tuesday or herpes.


July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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Originally Posted by jughed
Biggest power grab / political scam EVER.

Only a naive sap would fall for what the Trump haters worldwide have created. (sorry if I 'offended' any saps). Amazing how so many idiots will gobble up what the DNC controlled media feeds them.


Amazing, how the ENTIRE WORLD has ganged up to pick on good ol' DT. Man those dems are powerful.

Is it my imagination, or do you US guys seem to think that the entire world revolves around your political happenings? To me, it appears that most of the world just shakes its head as to what a political circus coronavirus has been in the US, and continues to be. But yeah, continue to buy into your conspiracy theories and to politicize pandemic prevention/policy. Hope it works out for you.

And, FWIW, Mr. Potato has every right to be concerned, but y'all don't really give a damn about that, do you? Just because something isn't currently affecting you, personally, it's just fun and games to tell people they are overreacting, or whatever... isn't it?

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British report good results on human tests of Oxford U Covid-19 vaccine

https://www.businessinsider.com/hop...sted-by-oxford-trial-breakthrough-2020-7

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UK scientists racing to develop a coronavirus vaccine believe they've made a breakthrough in early trials of an experimental vaccine that could offer "double defense" against the virus, The Daily Telegraph reported this week.

Researchers at Oxford University began human trials of a coronavirus vaccine in April. Blood samples taken from a group of volunteers in the UK who got a dose of the vaccine showed both antibodies and T cells, a source told The Telegraph.

T cells can kill a virus and the cells it has infected, providing an important part of the body's response to viral infections. The discovery is promising because two recent studies have indicated that antibodies may disappear within weeks or months while T cells may stay in the body for much longer, The Telegraph reported.

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Remember the previous post in this thread that some people defeat the Covid-19 virus with T-Cells and afterwards do not test positive for antibodies in their blood.

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Singapore/Duke researchers report on T-Cells

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-scientists-uncover-sars-cov-specific-cell-immunity.html

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The team tested subjects who recovered from COVID-19 and found the presence of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells in all of them, which suggests that T cells play an important role in this infection. Importantly, the team showed that patients who recovered from SARS 17 years ago after the 2003 outbreak, still possess virus-specific memory T cells and displayed cross-immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

"Our team also tested uninfected healthy individuals and found SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells in more than 50 percent of them. This could be due to cross-reactive immunity obtained from exposure to other coronaviruses, such as those causing the common cold, or presently unknown animal coronaviruses. It is important to understand if this could explain why some individuals are able to better control the infection," said Professor Antonio Bertoletti, from Duke-NUS' Emerging Infectious Diseases (EID) programme, who is the corresponding author of this study.

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Even mild obesity can make Covid-19 more severe

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-covid-severity-patients-mild-obesity.html

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The risk of greater COVID-19 severity and death is higher in people with any obese body mass index (BMI), according to a study to be published in the European Journal of Endocrinology. The study findings showed that BMI over 30 was associated with a significantly higher risk of respiratory failure, admission to intensive care and death in COVID-19 patients, regardless of age, gender and other associated diseases. The current guidelines for identifying those at higher risk in the UK are set at a BMI of 40 but these data suggest people with BMI over 30 should also be classified as at risk.

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Ranking of which antibody tests work best

https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4418/10/7/453

Their choice of a “heat map” to rank tests seems to me a poor choice.

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The reporting of 100% case positive numbers from many sites in Florida is highly suspicious.
It sure seems like a co-ordinated effort to decieve.

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