Re: The official Coronavirus thread
[Re: 360view]
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05/14/20 01:19 PM
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Famotidine (Pepcid) proves itself in clinical trial to be helpful against COVID-19 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20086694v1Sample quote A research study by Columbia University, Northwell Health and Massachusetts General Hospital shows that Famotidine, a common heartburn drug improved the clinical outcomes of hospitalized COVID-19 patients. The study involving 1620 patients from more than 10 hospitals in the United States showed that Famotidine associated with reduced risk of intubation or death in hospitalized COVID-19 patients. However further randomized controlled trials are warranted and also detailed studies are needed to understand the mode of its efficacy. End quote
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/14/20 03:42 PM
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China screwed the world with this virus... period! They might have planned it... but more likely an accident occurred, and once the ball was rolling they took full advantage of the "opportunity". They knew the virus was out & spreading, so they shut down air travel out of Wuhan... but ALLOWED air travel to continue out of Wuhan to every other nation in the world. There is NO disputing that fact... and it screwed the whole world. How it all started is small potato's compared to the fact they not only watched it spread without warning anyone... they accelerated it via the Airlines. Typical demonizing without proof to deflect any personal responsibility response, IMOI hope people in this country walk away from buying Chinese products in droves... And I'm a free market capitalist... but I also don't like being bent over, and have little forgiveness. They made their bed... now they can lie in in it. "Hope", "free market capitalist", fine until until one is on the losing end it seems, so if we don't "like" getting bent over, why do we do it and then start to complain, I also get turning the other cheek, and judge not until one has walked in another's shoes are long forgotten myths(?), and it seems, this current complaint is because they are choosing to lie in their bed, and we don't like our bed. Without proof?? Do you ever pay attention to any news other than the Kommifornia Times. Virus outbreak was in full swing in Wuhan,,, how it started is irrelevant... what they DID next is! As soon as the virus hit Wuhan, China shut down ALL DOMESTIC AIR Travel into & out of Wuhan... PERIOD! FACT!!At the same time, China continued to ALLOW ALL INTERNATIONAL AIR Travel into & out of Wuhan... also a FACT!! NO ONE in the WORLD (besides you apparently) disputes that China did that... No one. Not even their bought & paid for left nut... the W.H.O. Because they did it... and flight records prove it. Then the world paid the price... period. China is not a roll model.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/14/20 04:58 PM
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Typical demonizing without proof to deflect any personal responsibility response, IMO Not sure what kind of proof one might need that hasn't already been provided. Even by the MSM who are trying to deflect all blame to one person. Does their failure to provide any information in the beginning, their false information (lies), strong arming of WHO, blaming of Americans for causing this, threats to withhold PPE and pharms which should have been made here in the first place, extorting other nations, threats of military action, etc, etc not concern you? Obviously, this government failed it's primary responsibility of protecting America by trusting the Chicoms to behave like a civilized trading partner. Clearly they are not and our relationship with them needs to be much different going forward. I don't expect them to blow their trumpets and send 100,000 soldiers charging over the hill like they did in 1950. Times are different. But the people involved aren't. Consider that in 2 1/2 months, they have killed nearly 3 times the Americans that they did in 3 years of Korea. And they did it without firing a shot.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/14/20 07:38 PM
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"Hope", "free market capitalist", fine until until one is on the losing end it seems, so if we don't "like" getting bent over, why do we do it and then start to complain, I also get turning the other cheek, and judge not until one has walked in another's shoes are long forgotten myths(?), and it seems, this current complaint is because they are choosing to lie in their bed, and we don't like our bed.
Your posts would be a lot better if you didn't write in riddles and innuendo. Try being more direct and less cryptic.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/14/20 11:47 PM
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If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 12:35 AM
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According to these graphs, it looks like the curve may be flattening, so whatever has been done seems to have been working overall. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-casesBrazil is not looking so good at the moment.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 01:00 AM
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According to these graphs, it looks like the curve may be flattening, so whatever has been done seems to have been working overall. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-casesBrazil is not looking so good at the moment. Interesting they pick a bunch of random countries to graph and leave out Sweden. Since Sweden decided early on they were NOT going to lock down, they could be considered a control group of sorts. So seeing Sweden's graph would be interesting to most people... unless it's similar to all the countries that locked down. Maybe they don't want anyone seeing that locked down countries destroyed their economies for nothing. Also just counting "New Cases" can be deceiving. They are testing greater numbers of people with each passing day (as now almost anyone can get tested if they are curious) So it goes to figure you might see more positives this week if you tested 3 times as many people as last week. Especially when you have States like PA counting Anti-body positive results (showing past exposure to covid, but recovered now), as brand "New Cases" the day they get the results.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 07:56 AM
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Pet cats and COVID-19 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-cats-spread-covid-19/This brings up the tricky question whether American bats will eventually get and become a reservoir for COVID-19. America rodents have become a reservoir for Bubonic Plague that originated in Western China and Tibet.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 10:02 AM
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A local mayor posted this yesterday regarding the disparity of death rates between states, in particular, Illinois. And between 'closed' states and 'open' states. A long but interesting read. https://www.facebook.com/1015066281...2212/137533537864303/?type=3&theaterHere in our own southern Illinois county we have had 11 cases diagnosed. 8 have recovered and none have died. We have 2 towns that straddle the Interstate, have the Federal Court house, a Wal-Mart SuperCenter, and a large farm supply store, so we are hardly isolated. But we are still in lock-down. The worst casualties in this mess are our local small businesses. They are dropping left and right. Needlessly! This whole thing has been politicized to the point that it is no longer recognizable. What few statistics that have been available have been skewed at every step. But there has been 2 things that have been consistent: 1) is that the 'expert's' predictions have ALL BEEN VERY WRONG! Wrong to the point that they have not even been in the ball park. 2) the 'expert's' predictions have all been way high
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 10:05 AM
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"Hope", "free market capitalist", fine until until one is on the losing end it seems, so if we don't "like" getting bent over, why do we do it and then start to complain, I also get turning the other cheek, and judge not until one has walked in another's shoes are long forgotten myths(?), and it seems, this current complaint is because they are choosing to lie in their bed, and we don't like our bed.
Your posts would be a lot better if you didn't write in riddles and innuendo. Try being more direct and less cryptic. 1. I'm trying to stay within forum rules, however some feel I might get very close to the edge, sometimes it could be considered "innuendo" or even "cryptic", in trying to stay within the rules, is that a clear message? 2. "Directness" usually gets the most hostile responses here, no problem by me, except people that get angry, often just get tunnel vision and dumber. Seems to be a catch 22 for me. 3. I hope I never cease trying to be "better", and thanks for the reply and the suggestion. 4. Regarding your quote above, got any questions that would help clarify my original point? Understand, I was quoting and responding to the points in another's previous reply, not weighing my reply against that reply, would mean taking my reply completely out of context, and be confusing I suspect.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: The official Coronavirus thread
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05/16/20 10:19 AM
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Dutch data on fatality rate by age show influenza as deadly as COVID-19 up until age 50: https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-one-chart-exposes-lie-behind-universal-lockdowns/Sample quote Study this chart for a few minutes and take in all the data – from the asymptomatic/mildly symptomatic rates to the hospital and fatality rates divided by age. You have to get to the 50-59 age group just to reach a 0.1% fatality rate, the level often cited as the overall death rate for the seasonal flu. Those are all lower odds than an individual has of dying in a giving year of any cause and in the case of an average 50-year-old, five times lower. They didn’t test kids under 20, but their fatality rate is likely near zero. While the Netherlands is an entirely different country, it has actually experienced a 30% higher death rate per capita than America. So the numbers are likely not any higher here for those under 70, especially because the macro serology tests showing a 0.2% fatality rate (but grossly distorted by the death rate of those over 80), as well as what we are seeing in prisons and ships in younger populations, seems to harmonize with this data. A brand-new study from France also shows very similar estimates of fatality rates, at least for those under 60. End quote
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