Confused, huh? And you really don't know why the mortality rate matters?

Because the United States economy has been thrown into reverse. They are printing money faster than ever before which devalues ALL of the money already in circulation. Because people's financial lives are being destroyed. Suicides and domestic emergencies are rising. And on and on.............

You readily accept this 56,000 number that is being thrown around without having any idea how that number was arrived at. That is the point of the two links. This virus does kill people and there are certainly those that should take pertinent precautions, same as any bad flu season. But the data that is coming in does not show that this virus presents enough of a danger to enough of the population at large to justify the very real damage that is being done.

Stop and think for a moment what is going to happen if the United States is all but shut down every time a virus or influenza comes along that can kill less than 1% of the population. That scenario would play out every couple of years because there have recently been several flues that were just as virulent as this virus, if not even more so.

That is why the real data matters and is important.

I swear some of you guys have zero life except for Coronavirus. Gloom and doomers. Get a hobby or a dog or cat.

Well oddly IMO. Florida just had its highest daily COVID death toll, while we are "opening back up". They do report though the COVID hospital admissions(?) are trending down.

It’s probably posted somewhere in this post but did you ever see the different rates hospitals get for different illnesses. And you really think we are getting the truth and nothing but the truth.

Yup, now I am confused why you think it matters to need to debate the death rate.

Your above reasoning just seems very self centered, it's rather common nowadays.

Never said it was not important, or inconsequential, bur debating it at minute percentage accuracy rates, when over 50K have died, is rather callous, IMO.

And if you still are passing this event off as another "flu season", we have diametrically opposed value systems, and I have little confusion about that..

All hospitals are loosing there buts now.. they make money on selective surgeries..
and they are covered by insurance.. all the covet
19 is basically free

ER doctor in the Bronx on what he saw, and what he believes should be done next:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-w...-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/

If and I say if.. they would get a base price per.. thats not there money maker.. my son works at a hospital

I am not knocking this doctor or what he is saying but he leaves out some key points. One key point is that Loads of sick people are still dying in there homes never making it to a hospital, therefore keeping the new admissions of critical patients down.

The way things are is if you find your sick loved one unresponsive and call for an ambulance, the first responders will give life sustaining care (CPR, meds, Defibrillation etc.). This patient care is given for 20 minutes and if they can get you back you go to the hospital for further care. If they can't get the person back they are pronounced dead right in their home. If the patient has obvious signs of death (dep. lividity, decomposition, etc) when the ambulance or fire crew arrives then they are pronounced immediately. The sad part is that the medical examiners office is still backed up so the families end up waiting hours and in extreme cases a day or more with their deceased loved one in their residence before they are removed. I guess the 20 minute rule is better than what the NYSDOH wanted to enact "No pulse-no patient care". Thank god that protocol was not followed in NYC and hopefully no where else in the state either.

Another point this doctor mentioned was that most people are avoiding the healthcare system reducing new admissions. Well he is DAMN right. The hospitals in NYC are the last places i want to be in this climate. When you have our great doctors and nurses not adequately protected, then what the hell do you think could possibly happen to you. Plenty of cancer patients and others with compromised immune systems under care in the hospitals caught this and guess what, most are in bad shape or GONE....

Don't brag but be grateful if your towns and cities had a minimal infection rate and/or death rate. It sucks that everything is shutdown and a lot of people in places not seriously affected have had there livelihoods turned upside down. I do feel for you. I know for NY its gonna be a slow reopening when the time comes. Im not rushing to go to any of my favorite spots anytime soon.

If and I say if.. they would get a base price per.. thats not there money maker.. my son works at a hospital

"Your above reasoning just seems very self centered"

Attacking me as self centered is a non-starter............

Your blind acceptance of the HUGE number of people reported to have succumbed to this virus is YOUR problem.

An extra $38k bonus from the feds paid to hospitals for every person marked as "Death by Corona" is not Chump Change. There is little doubt that any person that was on the fence... (would have died anyway) but had the virus, is going to be marked Corona to collect the extra cash. From that alone, we will never have accurate numbers.

And not one person here has chimed in yet with a theory as to why people are dropping like flies in NYC with a population around 9million, yet Tokyo with a population of 37Million has almost none. Can't find a Tokyo specific number, but all of Japan only has 376 deaths as on 4/27, and that includes Tokyo. I realize people have been wearing masks there since the 2003 SARS outbreak... but that can't be the only reason. They shut down Air traffic from China after the US, and never shut down the economy.

What do you mean, "an extra $38K bonus"?

$38K is about 6(?) hrs in ICU.