OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 10:38 AM
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I pulled the oil filter off the 67 Belvedere after it had been sitting 25 yrs, its the original white, with the mopar logo, can I still get one?
67 Ply. Belvedere II 2dr Hardtop
73 Dodge Charger SE 440+6 727 Dana 60 4.10
78 Chrysler Cordoba 400-4 727 9 1/4 3.21
1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 QuadCab Longbox
2004 Dodge Durango HEMI Limited
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Re: OEM oil filter
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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04/04/09 12:11 PM
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Yeah Scott the logo was different red/blue i think, I thought I saved the filter.
67 Ply. Belvedere II 2dr Hardtop
73 Dodge Charger SE 440+6 727 Dana 60 4.10
78 Chrysler Cordoba 400-4 727 9 1/4 3.21
1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 QuadCab Longbox
2004 Dodge Durango HEMI Limited
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Re: OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 04:12 PM
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? Did the selling dealers change the oil filters during dealer prep?
Years ago I was given some good instructional advice regarding the way the factory processed and built their vehicles. Wayne Wolfgram (Ford Motor Company Vice President) told me to use the "most straight forward common sense approach" when trying to figure out areas that were not documented by engineering drawings. I guess the first thing to ask is "why" would the dealership change a brand new filter (on a delivered vehicle), throw it away and replace it with another new filter? Not only would they have been replacing a perfectly good filter, they would need to clean up any oil spill and also replace/add the quart of oil that would have still been in the factory filter! What about the large area that would have been required to store all of these "oil soaked" messy new filters? What program did they initiate for discarding these "used" filters and this EPA nightmare of a scenario? Would they also have changed the fuel filters? How about the air cleaner filter elements? I seriously doubt it! The Mound Road engine facility manufactured and painted most of the Chrysler engines. They were shipped to the various assembly plants where the secondary items such as A/C, Power Steering components, Air Breather housings and yes, oil filters were attached. Here is a period correct photo from 1969 showing the Emissions test being performed. Notice the oil filter and it's coloring.
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Re: OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 05:17 PM
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I can only speak of what General Motors has done over the years. Motors would reach the plant without oil filters on. The line worker would remove a thin paper cardboard filler that was stuck in the oil filters place. The line worker would then spin the blue or black filter on and apply an air oil filter wrench that would torque out and stop when tight. When out sourcing became the thing in the late 70s and early 80s oil filters started to appear on the motors when they reached the Assembly Plant. Once in a while there would be a cardboard cover on the filter that was used when painting the motor. This only occurred from one Motor Assembly Plant. making me think the other plants painted their motors before the filter was applied. Some motors never cam in with oil filters installed till Gm redesigned the oil cooler system that would elimitate the adapter between the filter and block. All motors come in at present with oil filters at the plant I work at.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 07:35 PM
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Reverse side! Bill Rolik P.S. I had as one of my responsibilities "Dealer Prep" at that time, and at least at the dealerships I worked for, there were no oil/filter changes prior to delivery. Which REMINDS ME of a brief funny story about a brand new employee who had his work bay next to mine: The Service Manager asked this newbie to bring a new Duster in to the shop, go to the Parts Department, get a radio, and put it (i.e. install it) in the Duster. He put it in the car alright: He put the radio installation package on the back seat and pulled the car outside, thinking he was done.
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Re: OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 08:08 PM
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Hey Wild Bill! Glad to see you could make it to this party. The oil filters were truly a “factory” piece in the scheme of things. Some of the assembly line parts were never put into “service” after the fact. They had parts to function as the factory versions but did not have the same cosmetic appearance. Other items such as Batteries and Battery Cables fit into this category. In 1970 if you picked up your new car and immediately drove around the back to the parts department, you would not get the same battery that came in the car from the assembly line. The same is true for the oil filters. If you went to the parts counter in 1969 or 1970, you would not receive the “green” style filter. The white (with blue print) “sand grain top” version is what you would have received. A year or two later Chrysler came out with the red, white and blue version oil filter. There was an early style of that particular filter followed by some other variations of the “flag” colored unit. Chrysler was not the only manufacturer that had these types of scenarios taking place regarding their replacement parts.
Dave, could you explain why you would drive to the back to the parts department when you received a new car and had to get a new oil filter or battery? im not understanding this? wouldnt the battery be new and ok same with the oil filter?
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Re: OEM oil filter
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04/04/09 08:16 PM
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I pulled the oil filter off the 67 Belvedere after it had been sitting 25 yrs, its the original white, with the mopar logo, can I still get one?
So were talking a car that has been off the road since 1984 ?. I would think the car would have had several oil changes prior to this???. What filter was mopar useing in the early 80's.
There is a picture of a room full of Hemi engines sitting at a Lynch Road assembly plant in this months Winged Warriors news letter. They look like they are missing the carburetors,exhaust manifolds and OIL filter. The starters and valve covers are on them, and painted black. These engines look like they are painted...so how does the exhaust manifolds, and oil filter get painted?? All the information I have seen says these items were on the engine when painted. I have read where the carbs and valve covers had a box put over them when the engine was painted. But what about the starter? I can't believe they painted the whole engines twice?
Thanks Dan
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