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When a car is restored to the OE Gold level, is it supposed to be restored to pre dealer delivery (just after the build at the plant) or to after dealer prep (when delivered to the customer)? Didn't the selling dealers change the oil filters during dealer prep?

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Ken good question about OE Gold Level

While working at Mopar Dealers(mechanic)from 1970 to 1984 I did prep cars at times and don't remember changing oil or filters.We made sure everything worked and that all oil levels where correct.IIRC they came back for service at about 1500 or 3000 miles

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? Did the selling dealers change the oil filters during dealer prep?

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Years ago I was given some good instructional advice regarding the way the factory processed and built their vehicles. Wayne Wolfgram (Ford Motor Company Vice President) told me to use the "most straight forward common sense approach" when trying to figure out areas that were not documented by engineering drawings. I guess the first thing to ask is "why" would the dealership change a brand new filter (on a delivered vehicle), throw it away and replace it with another new filter? Not only would they have been replacing a perfectly good filter, they would need to clean up any oil spill and also replace/add the quart of oil that would have still been in the factory filter! What about the large area that would have been required to store all of these "oil soaked" messy new filters? What program did they initiate for discarding these "used" filters and this EPA nightmare of a scenario? Would they also have changed the fuel filters? How about the air cleaner filter elements? I seriously doubt it! The Mound Road engine facility manufactured and painted most of the Chrysler engines. They were shipped to the various assembly plants where the secondary items such as A/C, Power Steering components, Air Breather housings and yes, oil filters were attached. Here is a period correct photo from 1969 showing the Emissions test being performed. Notice the oil filter and it's coloring.

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Hey Wild Bill! Glad to see you could make it to this party.
The oil filters were truly a “factory” piece in the scheme of things. Some of the assembly line parts were never put into “service” after the fact. They had parts to function as the factory versions but did not have the same cosmetic appearance. Other items such as Batteries and Battery Cables fit into this category.
In 1970 if you picked up your new car and immediately drove around the back to the parts department, you would not get the same battery that came in the car from the assembly line. The same is true for the oil filters. If you went to the parts counter in 1969 or 1970, you would not receive the “green” style filter. The white (with blue print) “sand grain top” version is what you would have received. A year or two later Chrysler came out with the red, white and blue version oil filter. There was an early style of that particular filter followed by some other variations of the “flag” colored unit. Chrysler was not the only manufacturer that had these types of scenarios taking place regarding their replacement parts.

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I pulled the oil filter off the 67 Belvedere after it had been sitting 25 yrs, its the original white, with the mopar logo, can I still get one?

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So were talking a car that has been off the road since 1984 ?. I would think the car would have had several oil changes prior to this???. What filter was mopar useing in the early 80's.

There is a picture of a room full of Hemi engines sitting at a Lynch Road assembly plant in this months Winged Warriors news letter. They look like they are missing the carburetors,exhaust manifolds and OIL filter. The starters and valve covers are on them, and painted black. These engines look like they are painted...so how does the exhaust manifolds, and oil filter get painted??
All the information I have seen says these items were on the engine when painted. I have read where the carbs and valve covers had a box put over them when the engine was painted. But what about the starter? I can't believe they painted the whole engines twice?




Thanks Dan

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So were talking a car that has been off the road since 1984 ?. I would think the car would have had several oil changes pryer to this???. What filter was mopar useing in the early 80's.

There is a picture of a room full of Hemi engines sitting at a Lynch Road assembly plant in this months Winged Warriors news letter. They look like they are missing the carburetors,exhaust manifolds and OIL filter. The starters and valve covers are on them, and painted black. These engines look like they are painted...so how does the exhaust manifolds, and oil filter get painted??
All the information I have seen says these items were on the engine when painted. I have read where the carbs and valve covers had a box put over them when the engine was painted. But what about the starter? I can't believe they painted the whole engines twice?

Thanks
Dan

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Dave, could you explain why you would drive to the back to the parts department when you received a new car and had to get a new oil filter or battery?

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Is this a trick question? I didn't literally mean that anyone would want to buy a new battery, oil filter or battery cables the day they picked up their car. I was simply trying to illustrate (or make the point) that those service parts were the only ones available from day one. Even on September 1st, 1969 you could not buy a green oil filter from the parts department at a Chrysler authorized dealership.

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Hey Wild Bill! Glad to see you could make it to this party.
The oil filters were truly a “factory” piece in the scheme of things. Some of the assembly line parts were never put into “service” after the fact. They had parts to function as the factory versions but did not have the same cosmetic appearance. Other items such as Batteries and Battery Cables fit into this category.
In 1970 if you picked up your new car and immediately drove around the back to the parts department, you would not get the same battery that came in the car from the assembly line. The same is true for the oil filters. If you went to the parts counter in 1969 or 1970, you would not receive the “green” style filter. The white (with blue print) “sand grain top” version is what you would have received. A year or two later Chrysler came out with the red, white and blue version oil filter. There was an early style of that particular filter followed by some other variations of the “flag” colored unit. Chrysler was not the only manufacturer that had these types of scenarios taking place regarding their replacement parts.

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And.....For those of you who spring for an original NOS correct green filter, don't forget, they were installed when the engine was painted, they had overspray on them! Haven't seen one done correctly yet!

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To be honest with you....I have seen a few original engines that still had the green filter on them and I don't recall any overspray on them. I don't have an answer for this, it would make sense that there should be some trace of paint on them but they did not. Do you have any pictures of oversprayed oil filter.

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Does anyone have any photos of the inside of the Chrysler engine plants?

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Here are some from the Mound Road engine facility. The Hemi engines were manufactured by the Chrysler Marine Division.

Note: In 1953, the marine engine plant (Jefferson Avenue) moved to a new plant in Trenton, Michigan, which was to become the Trenton Engine plant. That division split into two, the Marine Division and the Industrial Products Division. In 1963 they were moved from the Jefferson Avenue plant to expanded facilities at Marysville, Michigan.

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The 426 Hemi Engine was cast, machined and assembled at the Marine Engine Division Plant in Marysville, Michigan.

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Thanks Big Dave! I corrected my mistake.

Note: In 1953, the marine engine plant (Jefferson Avenue) moved to a new plant in Trenton, Michigan, which was to become the Trenton Engine plant. That division split into two, the Marine Division and the Industrial Products Division. In 1963 they were moved from the Jefferson Avenue plant to expanded facilities at Marysville, Michigan.

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The 426 Hemi Engine was cast, machined and assembled at the Marine Engine Division Plant in Marysville, Michigan. The 361,383, 400, 413 and 440 engines were built at Trenton engine plant in Trenton, Michigan.

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The 426 Hemi Engine was cast, machined and assembled at the Marine Engine Division Plant in Marysville, Michigan. The 361,383, 400, 413 and 440 engines were built at Trenton engine plant in Trenton, Michigan.

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What about the Indianapolis foundry? We had a tour there a few years ago. At that time, we were told they had cast performance blocks including the Hemi. They spoke of Hemi blocks that had weathered outside for several years at the end of production.

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The 426 Hemi Engine was cast, machined and assembled at the Marine Engine Division Plant in Marysville, Michigan. The 361,383, 400, 413 and 440 engines were built at Trenton engine plant in Trenton, Michigan.

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What about the Indianapolis foundry? We had a tour there a few years ago. At that time, we were told they had cast performance blocks including the Hemi. They spoke of Hemi blocks that had weathered outside for several years at the end of production.

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That Indy plant has been leveled. The blocks cast there were Mopar Peformance aftermarket hemi blocks, not original production blocks.

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