should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 01:37 PM
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Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the NHRA rulebook. Particularly section 3.1 Participant Conduct and then answer that question. Had this been observed by an NHRA official between sportsman racers, lets say S/G I would almost guarantee a DQ for the offending driver. Torrence gets but hurt over a driver going deep on him, they are allowed to if they so choose. The only rule broken was Torrences action at the top end. A fine to this guy will mean NOTHING.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the NHRA rulebook. Particularly section 3.1 Participant Conduct and then answer that question. Had this been observed by an NHRA official between sportsman racers, lets say S/G I would almost guarantee a DQ for the offending driver. Torrence gets but hurt over a driver going deep on him, they are allowed to if they so choose. The only rule broken was Torrences action at the top end. A fine to this guy will mean NOTHING. I agree, I also think he should have had 100 points taken away.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 01:42 PM
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He earned his championship on the track, His little B!T*H fest after that race should just cost him money, but sadly hes got loads of that so it wont do any good. Shouldnt get so upset over the tree battles, or anything he can do on the line to aid him. They both have similar cars, so if Torence is worried about mechanical issues, they both have to deal with that. If hes pissy that the other driver got into his head then thats on him....
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I dont care for him, and the only drivers in "FUEL" i care about are the lil guys who every once in a while sneak out a victory over the overlords.... So in other words he can punch anyone he wants to and just reach into his wallet and buy his way out of any trouble he gets into. Hmmmmmm. WRONG!!!!! NHRA blew it again.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 02:00 PM
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So in other words he can punch anyone he wants to and just reach into his wallet and buy his way out of any trouble he gets into. Hmmmmmm. WRONG!!!!! NHRA blew it again. [/quote] Maybe Karma will knock a few of his front teeth out next time He is less than respectful and professional, isn't he Probably gets that from his mommy I had a guy try something in me at the old LACR track, we had flip for lane choice and he pulled into my lane, my car would vary .002 to .004 in the other lane and I had dial for the right one. I had the water box guy change my dial in while he was doing his burn out and hung him out on my prestaging He was driving a air cooled V.W powered altered and he went ahead and staged and revved the motor way up before I was stage so that led to me taking a little more time in staging. He came over to me inn the pits and tried to get inn my face, luckily for him he didn't touch me. He thought he was hot stuff, I told him to not mess with the bull if he didn't wand to get the horns He avoided racing me after that
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 02:02 PM
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I re-watched the exchange between he & Ferre a couple times. At first they were shaking hands & talking, then as they parted Ferre said something that lit Torrence off. Bearing in mind the death of a crewmember's kid and the pressure of the Countdown, I suspect Torrence's fuse was quite short. He did apologize on camera later and subsequently had a much friendlier discussion with Ferre. Folks upset with that deal have probably never been to a Sprint Car race Not defending it, but I also don't get too bothered when some steam escapes... I was more bothered by the Starter sending Beckman downtrack on a full run with Hight's car parked mid-track. But that's a separate topic for a separate thread.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 03:45 PM
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I've seen (on camera) lots of altercations that were more severe than that and NHRA did nothing.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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11/18/19 05:38 PM
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I re-watched the exchange between he & Ferre a couple times. At first they were shaking hands & talking, then as they parted Ferre said something that lit Torrence off. Bearing in mind the death of a crewmember's kid and the pressure of the Countdown, I suspect Torrence's fuse was quite short. He did apologize on camera later and subsequently had a much friendlier discussion with Ferre. Folks upset with that deal have probably never been to a Sprint Car race Not defending it, but I also don't get too bothered when some steam escapes... I was more bothered by the Starter sending Beckman downtrack on a full run with Hight's car parked mid-track. But that's a separate topic for a separate thread. They didn't know what to do!! They took him off the track and let him praying for the best...........
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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So what did Cameron say to him? Any of you geniuses know? Maybe find out all the facts before deciding fate. We all know that Torrance is a little [censored], but how many of you have said the wrong thing in the heat of the battle? Glass houses... None of Cameron’s mannerisms looked aggressive during that discussion. But only those two know what was said. Myself, I couldn’t care less if Cameron told him he was gonna donkey punch his sister. Torrence is classless, and too bad his money is going to dictate his punishment. He’s getting to Tanner Gray level.
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Re: should Steve Torrence be crown champion
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So what did Cameron say to him? Any of you geniuses know? Maybe find out all the facts before deciding fate. We all know that Torrance is a little [censored], but how many of you have said the wrong thing in the heat of the battle? Glass houses... You mean after I won a round at a national event in a pro class , on national television ? Yeah............ you're right. Now , I have to temper my enthusiasm and mind my bidness. Note to self...................no throwing hands to anyone's face until the situation is absolutely right for it.
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