Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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My motor is making a funny rattling noise coming from the mid-lower front of the engine. It's erratic at idle and becomes more pronounced when I increase RPMs. I pulled the plug wires one at a time, disconnected belts, checked timing, plugs, etc. and everything seems in order. Compression check too. I have a 25 second video of the motor running where you can hear the noise. Is there anyway to post a video on this site so that the experts here can help diagnose?
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5 1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2 1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7 1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan 1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth 1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ 1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Auto trans? wouldn`t hurt to check the check torque converter bolts. Use a piece of hose to try and isolate where the sound is coming from.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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4-speed. I'll try posting on you-tube and link it.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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I'm unable to post it on you-tube, or even e-mail it to myself. File must be to large. GRRRRRR
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Scott, it does (509) and it's relatively new, about 2 years old. I've had a bad lifter here and there, and it produced a ticking noise under the valve cover. The noise I'm hearing with this problem sounds more like a pre-ignition rattle. Very erratic, mid-lower front of motor. I'm about ready to pull the timing cover and pan. Sucks.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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What harmonic balancer is on the motor? A/C car? Pulling the belts off would eliminate the alternator & water pump. I'll assume you've already checked the fan & pulley for any wobble. Does it sound like a bad bearing, or a rhythmic ticking, or contact between a rotating item and pan or tray? Definitely from the front? Does it change with clutch pushed in? Might want to pull valve covers & poke around, though you said "middle front". No wobble with fan or pulley. Not rhythmic, more like an inconsistant rattle, like pre-ignition when you hammer down with crappy gas. 90% sure its from front. Didn't check it with clutch engaged, good idea...
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Scott, pulled each plug wire one by one and noise remains. Although it got slightly louder when motor warmed up.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Not sure of history on rebuild except it got a cam about 2 years ago. Only owned the car for a few months and the noise hasn't changed, but only put about 50 miles on the car.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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When it got the cam
Was the oil slinger installed backwards on the crank ?
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Wonder if it's with the timing chain and/or oil slinger (assuming they put one on). I had a video of what my Dakota sounded like when it's chain was hitting the cover, but, photobucket was kind enough to delete it for me. If your video is only 15 seconds long and won't upload, it sounds like it's formatted wrong.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Go underneath and check the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts. You may have one or a couple bolts too long making them scrape against the timing case cover. Had this happen on a 68 Roadrunner with 383. We did a new rebuild. On start up we get this noise we could not find. With the engine off, went underneath , noticed that the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts were too long and scraping the cover. We put shorter bolts on and no more noise.
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Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?
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Go underneath and check the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts. You may have one or a couple bolts too long making them scrape against the timing case cover. Had this happen on a 68 Roadrunner with 383. We did a new rebuild. On start up we get this noise we could not find. With the engine off, went underneath , noticed that the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts were too long and scraping the cover. We put shorter bolts on and no more noise.
After a new rebuild and learning it was just a bolt... wow that stinks. I'll check the bolts tonight.
1970 Superbird 440 Six BBL, 4-Speed, Dana, FJ5 1969 Daytona Charger 440 4-Speed, Dana, EV2 1971 340 Challenger Conv. Flemington Speedway Pace Car, FC7 1970 340 Six Pack Callenger T/A 4-speed T8 Tan 1971 340 Challenger RT Formal Roof, EV2 w/ V2 Stripe & Orange Houndstooth 1969 Talladega Torino, 428CJ 1969 Gurney Special Cyclone Spoiler II, 351 Cleveland
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