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Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose?

Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 01:19 PM

My motor is making a funny rattling noise coming from the mid-lower front of the engine. It's erratic at idle and becomes more pronounced when I increase RPMs. I pulled the plug wires one at a time, disconnected belts, checked timing, plugs, etc. and everything seems in order. Compression check too. I have a 25 second video of the motor running where you can hear the noise. Is there anyway to post a video on this site so that the experts here can help diagnose?
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 01:45 PM

What engine?
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 08:25 PM

440 six pack
Posted By: Greentween

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 08:45 PM

Put it on youtube and post a link to it here
Posted By: mopars4ever

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 09:13 PM

Auto trans? wouldn`t hurt to check the check torque converter bolts. Use a piece of hose to try and isolate where the sound is coming from.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 11:13 PM

4-speed. I'll try posting on you-tube and link it.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 11:28 PM

I'm unable to post it on you-tube, or even e-mail it to myself. File must be to large. GRRRRRR
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/25/19 11:58 PM

Total shot in the dark guess, but if its got a hydraulic cam there have been a LOT of hyd lifters going bad lately.
Posted By: PDR Dude

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:41 AM

What is the history on the engine? Recent rebuild? Did the noise start out gradual and got worse? Did the noise start after running it hard or sitting for a long time? Just trying to help diagnose.....Scotts idea on the lifter is certainly a good possibility
Posted By: topside

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:43 AM

What harmonic balancer is on the motor? A/C car?
Pulling the belts off would eliminate the alternator & water pump.
I'll assume you've already checked the fan & pulley for any wobble.
Does it sound like a bad bearing, or a rhythmic ticking, or contact between a rotating item and pan or tray?
Definitely from the front?
Does it change with clutch pushed in?
Might want to pull valve covers & poke around, though you said "middle front".
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:44 AM

Scott, it does (509) and it's relatively new, about 2 years old. I've had a bad lifter here and there, and it produced a ticking noise under the valve cover. The noise I'm hearing with this problem sounds more like a pre-ignition rattle. Very erratic, mid-lower front of motor. I'm about ready to pull the timing cover and pan. Sucks.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:49 AM

Bummer but better to find out now than after further damage. Maybe a wrist pin. If you pull the plug wire to the offending cylinder while it's running the noise will likely stop if it's a bad pin.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by topside
What harmonic balancer is on the motor? A/C car?
Pulling the belts off would eliminate the alternator & water pump.
I'll assume you've already checked the fan & pulley for any wobble.
Does it sound like a bad bearing, or a rhythmic ticking, or contact between a rotating item and pan or tray?
Definitely from the front?
Does it change with clutch pushed in?
Might want to pull valve covers & poke around, though you said "middle front".


No wobble with fan or pulley.
Not rhythmic, more like an inconsistant rattle, like pre-ignition when you hammer down with crappy gas.
90% sure its from front.
Didn't check it with clutch engaged, good idea...
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:54 AM

Scott, pulled each plug wire one by one and noise remains. Although it got slightly louder when motor warmed up.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 12:57 AM

Not sure of history on rebuild except it got a cam about 2 years ago. Only owned the car for a few months and the noise hasn't changed, but only put about 50 miles on the car.
Posted By: bee1971

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 01:17 AM

When it got the cam

Was the oil slinger installed backwards on the crank ?
Posted By: SattyNoCar

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 01:22 AM


Wonder if it's with the timing chain and/or oil slinger (assuming they put one on).

I had a video of what my Dakota sounded like when it's chain was hitting the cover, but, photobucket was kind enough to delete it for me. mad

If your video is only 15 seconds long and won't upload, it sounds like it's formatted wrong.
Posted By: jlatessa

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 04:58 AM

What do the plugs look like?
If black, maybe carbon build-up on the piston giving a knock when warm...

Joe
Posted By: GMP440

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 10:08 AM


Go underneath and check the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts. You may have one or a couple bolts too long making them scrape against the timing case cover.
Had this happen on a 68 Roadrunner with 383. We did a new rebuild. On start up we get this noise we could not find.
With the engine off, went underneath , noticed that the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts were too long and scraping the cover. We put shorter bolts on and no more noise.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by GMP440

Go underneath and check the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts. You may have one or a couple bolts too long making them scrape against the timing case cover.
Had this happen on a 68 Roadrunner with 383. We did a new rebuild. On start up we get this noise we could not find.
With the engine off, went underneath , noticed that the pulley to harmonic balancer bolts were too long and scraping the cover. We put shorter bolts on and no more noise.


After a new rebuild and learning it was just a bolt... wow that stinks. I'll check the bolts tonight.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/26/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by jlatessa
What do the plugs look like?
If black, maybe carbon build-up on the piston giving a knock when warm...

Joe


Joe,
The plugs are a little black, but not carboned up. The noise I'm hearing sounds like a pre-ignition rattle. Three or four clinks, then a pause, then two clinks, pause, etc.
Posted By: RSI700VIPER

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/27/19 09:45 PM

Problem found. Turns out it was a loose harmonic balancer bolt. Balancer was rocking slightly and the crank pulley was hitting the fan pulley. Thanks for all the input!
Posted By: TJP

Re: Engine Noise - How to post a Video to Diagnose? - 04/27/19 11:18 PM

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