Re: Good deal in Texas
[Re: NachoRT74]
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03/19/19 07:42 AM
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Dosent matter which side the spindles are on.Just as long as the bleeders are up and no interference.I have/had mine mounted both ways.Calipars are just swapped side to side also so they have as said bleeder up.Rocky
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Re: Good deal in Texas
[Re: therocks]
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03/19/19 09:25 AM
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Dosent matter which side the spindles are on.Just as long as the bleeders are up and no interference.I have/had mine mounted both ways.Calipars are just swapped side to side also so they have as said bleeder up.Rocky I'm aware of that! thanks! I don't need it, since my car is factory disc, but just for infomation.
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
[Re: NachoRT74]
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03/19/19 10:47 AM
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I have used the taller spindles AND the offset bushings together on many builds and there was never a problem with the alignment. But stock spindles and stock UCA bushings often will not come in. Talking about this! Locally all mopars have REALLY bad reputation about front end weakness and aligment troubles. So bad, that ppl tends to remove the stock K frame and modify everything needed to install CHEBBY subframes down stock frame rails ( usually 70s Novas &/or small Malibus on A bodies at least ) Some ppl however use to cut the UCA and elongate them by an inch or so get them outer just right an offset bushing. Some ppl have changed the LCA bushing using brass pieces or even BEARINGS on them due premature failures. I have thing this deal is related to oil leaks on engine which damages the rubber &/or tighten up the LCA pivot nut before set the ride height, breaking the bushing out when seting the ride height after tight the nut. Whatever, the question on this is, if have somebody found some problem on frame rails being bent or twisted after all these years causing the aligment issues being the UCA attached to frame rail? Meaning this due the offset bushing existance and now you mention having a similar problem. Need to say locally Mopars have allways abused after all these years. And has being like that since ever! Once again sorry the highjack, but since has being floated out somehow, maybe is time to ask Wow, but I'm not surprised. The mopar design of the muscle car era has always had limitations on caster/camber changes. Other than that. it actually has very good geometry. The frame, upper control arm, alignment angles, and geometry curves are all interrelated. But, a tweak any one of this combination and it will impact all the others. The lack of adjustment range combined with the interdependancy of all the parts could lead some people to thinking that similar year chevy design could be better (geometrically, it isn't, it just has a broader range of adjustment). Ironically, for all the work of swapping in a chevy stub, you could easily to a fraction of the work to add adjustment range to the mopar set up. Most aftermarket upper arms already provide more range. Offset bushing add range. If you really want chevy style range, convert the upper arms to mount on studs and use a chevy upper arm. Add two holes for studs, ream the spindle for the chevy ball joint and a pack of shims and you have a significantly broader range of adjustment. That is much easier than swapping an entire front stub.
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
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03/19/19 06:43 PM
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Ironically, for all the work of swapping in a chevy stub, you could easily to a fraction of the work to add adjustment range to the mopar set up. . totally agreed but not enough brain for anything like that LOL. PPl doesn't think, just go for it. Anyway I'm not even talking about some custom requirement for some specific car use, is just about constant fails on front end with regular use.... is not uncommon to see the fronts wheels like this / \ ( on a front view ) on a local old and abused Mopar
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
[Re: NachoRT74]
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03/20/19 09:24 AM
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I don't mind the hijack...lol. The discussion is good. I'm building my 68 Hemi Dart for Power Tour, its not your average build so your answers help a lot. If anyone is interested in more info? I'm using the HDK Torsion Bar eliminator kit with M body spindles, modified K frame, stock strut bars and looking and 6 piston Wilwood brakes. That brings another question to mind, Wilwood lists a 6 piston 12.8 rotor kit that says its for Magnum Force drop spindles, has anyone tried to put this kit on the M body spindles?
I'm 57 years old, build hi performance cars for a living at my own shop. I learn something new EVERY day. Being able to ask questions and share info helps in many ways. At this point the info helps me choose parts before I buy instead of buying / sending stuff back prolonging the process. Thank you all and I hope this discussion helps others too.
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
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03/20/19 05:08 PM
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my mind remembers a dropped spindle from years ago, that was a fabbed piece of plate steel with a pressed in hub spindle and a welded on tapered bung for the upper ball joint stud. who made those ? it was during the time aspen/volare front K member swaps were invented for 60's pickups. Fatman Fabrications. Yes, they looked like a high school shop project that got a D. Primary market for them was the rod builders and showground cruisers, who used to bolt the FJM subframes into early iron.
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
[Re: moparx]
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03/20/19 06:27 PM
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my mind remembers a dropped spindle from years ago, that was a fabbed piece of plate steel with a pressed in hub spindle and a welded on tapered bung for the upper ball joint stud. who made those ? it was during the time aspen/volare front K member swaps were invented for 60's pickups. Fatman makes those.
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Re: A and M body disc brake spindles
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03/28/19 09:58 PM
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Wa la.. Do you mean Voila ?? That irritates me too
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