Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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I still run points.
Nothing simpler, nothing easier.
Works fine if you maintain them.
The best ignition upgrade a guy could do! I’ve swapped all my cars back to points. Never been walking with points. 3 times stranded with the other “upgrades” Maintenance is the key, and if you drive a few thousand miles a year then the maintenance is a quick look. Thanks. Anybody in the market for a MSD box and B engine distributor? I think if I had two good prestolite distributors i'd ditch all the electronics.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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Jacobs did not invent the multi spark discharge ignition. That probably predates his birth. Earliest patent I can find that references more than one spark per ignition event was issued in 1939. It was both tube based and a non-contact electronic ignition system.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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I'm surprised so many prefer points. That was the first lesson I learned on maintenance. Still run points on the stuff I have that came with 'em. Still have no problems with factory electronic stuff either. Knock on wood.
I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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Points have the virtue of being cheap, easy and obvious.
electronic stuff isn't.
The factors that drove the OEM's to electronic ignition setups do not apply to me.
Do I have to worry about emissions? nope
Do I have to worry about economy? nope
Do I have to worry about a 50,000 mile warranty? nope
If my points fail I can usually fix them with whatever I have in my pockets. I cannot do that with electronic stuff and I have been fixing electronic stuff for 35 years.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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I always carry a fingernail file and a matchbook. Have had to use 'em on occasion. Surprises some folks a bit. I think having to maintain them is the reason folks don't use 'em. Same reason fuel injection swaps are becoming more and more popular. I happen to be in the same position as posted above. Emission, nope Economy, nope. Warranty nope.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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Jacobs did not invent the multi spark discharge ignition. That probably predates his birth. Earliest patent I can find that references more than one spark per ignition event was issued in 1939. It was both tube based and a non-contact electronic ignition system. ok. maybe I should have said the first marketable capacitive discharge for the aftermarket auto world. slice and dice but it's my understanding that there wouldn't be an MSD box without Jacobs.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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Longer duration = hotter spark.
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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^^^ I got one of those (still on the shelf tho). In the Jacobs bible he has top notch info on maxing out points, (2 condensors in series & more). I liked useing 2 batteries & giveing 24 volts during WOT then in the corners you let off & it goes back to 12V & things cool. We cant use 2 batteries so that mixes that (for me). EDIT on a points dist, confirm the bushings/shaft radial play at the top (where the points are) is minimal (new bushings if needed) & shim the lower shaft end play to .005" (speedway mtrs has a kit of (5) shims for cheap).
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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I have never used an MSD in any car I've owned in the past 42 years. I've run the MP distributor with a stock box or a chrome box recurved and dialed in even in a 10 second street car.
On the car's that came with stock dual points I then used Pertronix conversions in them and all was well also.
Ron And will Add the simplicity of troubleshooting along with the availability of parts is another big plus IMO What’s more simple than MSD box? Also no parts are needed when they don’t fail the MSD 6AL box in my Demon is at least 20 years old. If you’re speaking of caps and rotors well if you aren’t keeping a spare with you at all times then that’s your fault. (You’re, your and you are directed as generalizations not at anyone in particular so that no one gets butt hurt)
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Re: What ignition systems r u running 383 other than Mopar-MSD
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What’s more simple than MSD box? Also no parts are needed when they don’t fail the MSD 6AL box in my Demon is at least 20 years old. If you’re speaking of caps and rotors well if you aren’t keeping a spare with you at all times then that’s your fault.
(You’re, your and you are directed as generalizations not at anyone in particular so that no one gets butt hurt)
considering the car wiring and engine bay locations are ready for the stock unit... A PERFORMANCE UNIT FITTING JUST LIKE ANY STOCK replacement is WAY easier LOL. aaand I already have got two friends with damaged MSD Box &/or RTR MSD dist. Being overseas, thats a headache! and about the YOU note... that's a problem we don't have in spanish, because we have two diff "you", one for single and one for plural LOL
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