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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: madscientist] #2578966
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If you are referring to the red t-handle that pulls up to lock out reverse we are on the same page. They don't make those anymore as far as I know.

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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: Jeremiah] #2578969
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Originally Posted By Jeremiah
If you are referring to the red t-handle that pulls up to lock out reverse we are on the same page. They don't make those anymore as far as I know.



Correct. That's a Super Shifter III. I did see some remans on eBay but they want pretty good money for them.

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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: madscientist] #2578977
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The Super Shifter Three I had in a 1968 Baracuda in 1974 or 1975 didn't have that lever, I think I needed to push the shifter lever straight down in neutral and then move the shifter handle into reverse to the left and up towards the motor shruggy
I think the Hurst Ram Rod shifters and some of the Mr. Gasket shifters had push down or pull up levers like that for reverse, maybe not confused


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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: MadMopars] #2578990
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The Super Shifter does not have a reverse lockout. The Super Shifter does have a reverse lockout.


??? Make up your mind !!

Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: Stanton] #2578995
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The Hurst "Ram-4" looks like it would work but I tried to race one with a slicked up Hemi box and I prefer the Super Shifter III or a Long V-gate .
My favorite was Long V-gate and Heim joint linkage.

I purchased my tubing from Liberty Gears and the heims from Long.

I also used a Long V-gate on my Richmond with Face-plate gears from Liberty and it was so much fun to do full throttle power shifts never missing a gear.

Spend the money on a Long shifter for a V-gate or look for a NASCAR Hurst shifter or "good used" Super Shifter III if you want an "H" pattern deal twocents

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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: Stanton] #2579013
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Originally Posted By Stanton
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The Super Shifter does not have a reverse lockout. The Super Shifter does have a reverse lockout.


??? Make up your mind !!



The junk [censored] iPad decided to remove the III I typed. I've posted several times how it was, but I'll do it again for the crowd that wasn't there to live through the era or have reading issues.

The SUPER SHIFTER does NOT have a lock out lever, and AFAIK never did.

The SUPER SHIFTER III does have a reverse lock out lever, and AFAIK always did.

It's that simple. There are guys who swear on their mothers grave they had a SUPER SHIFTER III without a reverse lockout but I've never seen one. Ever.


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^^^^well instead of listening to somebody who doesn't even have a car^^^^
I can tell you I absolutely love my vertigate. I never had a second to third shift any faster than slamming straightforward! I took it out thinking I just wanted the ball shifter for Comfort but now I miss that 3rd gear bang..

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Also yeah I cut a little chunk out of that hump and just saved it and weld it back in and now I'll just cut the line back out again no big deal it's just a little piece. At least for my 73 a body.

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I have a picture of the cut out but I haven't learnded how to post pictures...? Also of my Hurst v-gate and homemade linkage. It will be a winter project, but I know I'll enjoy having it back in.

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I have a picture of the cut out but I haven't learnded how to post pictures...? Also of my Hurst v-gate and homemade linkage. It will be a winter project, but I know I'll enjoy having it back in. I also have a diagram of the special bracket you need to adapt it to an a body. A member of another forum dropped one on a piece of paper and traced it for me. The original was a cast aluminum but I just made mine out of a thin piece of Steel. It works great. Possibly a couple grams heavier than the original LOL

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My Challenger tunnel was cut a long time ago and I have had most shifters in the car but the one I prefer is the Mr. Gasket Vertical gate shifter. I use the B Body V Gate shifter in my E Body. I prefer that location over all other shifters.


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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: The real scienti] #2579044
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Originally Posted By The real scienti
^^^^well instead of listening to somebody who doesn't even have a car^^^^
I can tell you I absolutely love my vertigate. I never had a second to third shift any faster than slamming straightforward! I took it out thinking I just wanted the ball shifter for Comfort but now I miss that 3rd gear bang..



I was using a V-Gate shifter while you were still sucking your thumb.

Don't you have a snowmobile to waste time with?


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In what? You got to have a car to have a vertigate don't you?

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Originally Posted By The real scienti
In what? You got to have a car to have a vertigate don't you?




If you are THAT lonely, you can always call me.

Yes I have a car. It will never get a V-Gate because I'm not going to put a big hole in the tunnel.

Still driving my car mostly every day. The weather is beautiful, except it's in the low 20's at night.

Practice up. You'll need it.


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Never happened...

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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: The real scienti] #2579114
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1) Hit the newbie thread!

2) Use punctuation. I'm not Jack Kerouac.

3) Post a link so we don't have to read your run-on sentence of a story.

4) Welcome to Moparts! Please read the forum rules before posting and make sure to have fun with your new friends.

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How do you post pictures??
I can shed first hand light on this subject with pictures.
As a matter of fact like I said I'm going to reinstall the vertigate this winter so I can do step by step cutting out the hole again and everything but I like to be able to do it with pictures. Also if anybody needs the blueprints to the adapter plate for an a body, not a problem.

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When you post there is a little File Manager link that allows you to upload pictures. You "choose", then attach, then "done". The catch is pictures can't be too large.

A shot of my shifter body (from Passon, with rev. lockout purchased circa 2014?ish) and the comparison shot of a Long vs. the Competition Plus.

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Re: Hurst V Gate shifter fitment [Re: MadMopars] #2579255
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I have the Long HB1000s H-pattern shifter mounted in my 69 RR. I modified the Long mounting pad and welded the Long pad to the A833 shifter mounting pad. The Long shifter is in the same position as the original Hurst.

I also had custom operating levers made that are shorter than the original, in an effort to shorten the shifter throw. The 1-2 and the 3-4 operating levers were machined to be the same length hole to hole.

The unfortunate result of the Long h-pattern shifter is a noticeably longer throw than the original Hurst shifter even with the custom shorter operating levers. Furthermore, the 1-2 shifter throw and 3-4 shifter throw on the Long shifter are the same length, thus creating a problem when adjusting the shifter stop bolts. The Hurst shifter throws are different in length between the 1-2 and the 3-4, correlating with different length operating lever lengths original to the A833.

One last thing, The Long H-pattern shifter is not friendly to a fast and hard 2-3 shift. My opinion is for an h-pattern the Hurst is a superior choice on an A833.

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