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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: ZIPPY]
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11/08/18 07:27 PM
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Mequon, WI
gzig5
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I've got a NOS Siamese 59 degree (Siamese 340 replacement) sitting at home next to my tractor doing me no good. It will go up for sale pretty soon, I just need to set aside few hours to get out there,jockey stuff around, and blow the dust off it. It's been hard to find the time with other projects and the rest of life happening. Need max exposure so, all I can say is keep an eye on eBay.
Honest question....What is a Saimese 340? Casting from Thailand?
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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11/08/18 07:27 PM
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Washington
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WTH??? That was easy! Ar you REALLY that cheap?
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: gzig5]
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11/08/18 07:32 PM
11/08/18 07:32 PM
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S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY
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I've got a NOS Siamese 59 degree (Siamese 340 replacement) sitting at home next to my tractor doing me no good. It will go up for sale pretty soon, I just need to set aside few hours to get out there,jockey stuff around, and blow the dust off it. It's been hard to find the time with other projects and the rest of life happening. Need max exposure so, all I can say is keep an eye on eBay.
Honest question....What is a Saimese 340? Casting from Thailand? It's like Thai stick, man.... Like that stuff, that's tied to a stick. It's like that.
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: madscientist]
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11/08/18 07:44 PM
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pittsburghracer
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WTH??? That was easy! Ar you REALLY that cheap? Lol. I’m a budget racer but I’m not that cheap. I would love to have a Ritter block to back up my R3 but a set of Victor heads may be next on my plate. I just raised slightly over 4000.00 selling a few things and probably will be listing a couple thousand more.
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: dwayne welder]
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11/08/18 08:52 PM
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Las Vegas
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As I said when this all came out and Dart was in the process of being sold. Don't hold your breath for them to do a block for a Mopar. It is a great idea and these is a market for it but cant see a group of investors, which is who purchased Dart to even care about undertaking a new design with such a limited market
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/08/18 09:16 PM
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Washington
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As I said when this all came out and Dart was in the process of being sold. Don't hold your breath for them to do a block for a Mopar. It is a great idea and these is a market for it but cant see a group of investors, which is who purchased Dart to even care about undertaking a new design with such a limited market Yup. The buyers are going to want their ROI up front and making parts with a might sell small volume deal won't do that.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: madscientist]
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11/08/18 09:57 PM
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Kalispell Mt.
HotRodDave
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With the supply of Magnum blocks out there in yards, I'd guess it'll be another decade before there is a business case the aftermarket can make work.
Who knows, by that time us small block guys may largely have gone Gen III leaving a tinier space for aftermarket LA blocks. Comparing a magnum block to a race block is like comparing an anchor to a pillow. It's rediculous. As may be. The market will decide though, not some dude who can't/won't spell properly but uses cute similes. What exactly did I spell incorrectly? Also, I don't smile, why would I use one in a post? I stand by what I said. A magnum block is not a race block, nor will it ever be a race block. Funny how the guy talking smack about the other guys spelling has spelling errors of his own in the very post he made fun of the other guy.
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: gzig5]
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11/08/18 09:57 PM
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Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
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I've got a NOS Siamese 59 degree (Siamese 340 replacement) sitting at home next to my tractor doing me no good. It will go up for sale pretty soon, I just need to set aside few hours to get out there,jockey stuff around, and blow the dust off it. It's been hard to find the time with other projects and the rest of life happening. Need max exposure so, all I can say is keep an eye on eBay.
Honest question....What is a Saimese 340? Casting from Thailand? Starts out as a V16 and they have to cut it in half. That's what I heard.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: sasquatch]
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11/09/18 12:00 AM
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How about if Dart just made some good iron hemi and wedge blocks? We KNOW that is a good market. Just buy the tooling from Mopar and get to work. Everybody wins! Mopar gets to ignore it and Dart can make some money. We get blocks we can use. Simple but will happen when pigs fly. hey I actually saw a rather large pot belly pig running up the road this afternoon. Not sure who he belonged to but he looked well fed....In my part of the world he will be BBQ before dark running around loose like that> If the block isn't race ready, per any application and cost less than $1500.00 you won't sell nearly as many as one might think. I'd rather have unfinished bores, the decks as tall as I can get them, the lifter bores finished about .020 under...stuff like that. Chrysler guys won't pay $3000.00 (or more) for a block and do any finish work. Hell, I want the mains .005 under minimum.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: Biginchmopar]
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11/09/18 11:16 AM
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I'm telling you the Ritter blocks I have are nice but haters are going to hate. Well then make your make your matching end tables into running usable horsepower and get back to us!
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: dwayne welder]
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11/09/18 11:28 AM
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Florida
CJD AUTOMOTIVE
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You guys are dreaming if you think Dart is going to make a SB Mopar block. Maskin said as much during the Q&A at EM.
If you want a SB race block, it's Mopar or Ritter, period.
Now the company that has a vested interest in making a block, owns a foundry and is capable, would be Edelbrock...but when Chevy 409 heads take precedence over the Mopar Victor heads and pushed them back years, good luck with that.
Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"
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Re: Dart SB Mopar Blocks
[Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE]
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11/09/18 12:46 PM
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
Twostick
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You guys are dreaming if you think Dart is going to make a SB Mopar block. Maskin said as much during the Q&A at EM.
If you want a SB race block, it's Mopar or Ritter, period.
Now the company that has a vested interest in making a block, owns a foundry and is capable, would be Edelbrock...but when Chevy 409 heads take precedence over the Mopar Victor heads and pushed them back years, good luck with that.
Which is why all these there is no viable market arguments come across as BS to me. I would really like to see a sales comparison between that 409 head and their Mopar heads over the last 5 years. Kevin
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Ignoring the facts won't change them.