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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2569744
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
That stack of slips proves nothing.


Does to ME and that's the point especially YOU and a couple who swear I never race(d) enough to hurt the pumpkin well, there's 160+ runs there and many more I threw in the trash. I wont waste time arguing or pushing the point as I don't care what you guys think because most know nothing about me, my life or the bad ass THUMPER that's still driven and beat on weekly testing carbs for YOU guys........... drumhit whistling


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569754
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Anybody else just LIKE the convenience factor of a drop-out rear so that a majority of the set up work can be done on a bench?

Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2569763
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Anybody else just LIKE the convenience factor of a drop-out rear so that a majority of the set up work can be done on a bench?


Absolutely.......I built the nodular myself with some help from guys on here and even w/out a pumpkin vise or diff tools, it went great and is quiet, tight and smooth.......... thumbs


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: Thumperdart] #2569780
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
That stack of slips proves nothing.


Does to ME and that's the point especially YOU and a couple who swear I never race(d) enough to hurt the pumpkin well, there's 160+ runs there and many more I threw in the trash. I wont waste time arguing or pushing the point as I don't care what you guys think because most know nothing about me, my life or the bad ass THUMPER that's still driven and beat on weekly testing carbs for YOU guys........... drumhit whistling

Dom...you said yourself that a lot of those slips were from a long time ago when the car wasn't nearly as fast as it is now. My point has always been that you make it sound like the car has years and years of 9 sec passes on that same gearset and it doesn't. Not to mention lots of guys will put more than 160 runs on their car in a single season...I have in the past just testing and tuning.
How many of those slips are 9 sec runs?
Beating on it on the street simply will not stress the rear enough to hurt it b/c the traction isn't there to do it, so that claim has no merit here.
I'm not "hating" on you or your car. It runs very well for what it is, no doubt there. Making a few fast passes each year and then claiming it's been running 9s for X amount of years doesn't mean anything when most are thinking you race a lot more than you do. They'll usually take it for a lil while.

A friend has a fast nitrous monte carlo that has a 7.5" 10 bolt in it. It's never been apart since he built it, but he also only races about twice a year. So when he says I've been <this fast> for X amount of years, it means squat to me, but people who ASSUME he races all the time think damn, that rear must be pretty strong.


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2569786
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: J_BODY] #2569806
10/26/18 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
When I fell out of my keyboard racer closet 2 years ago I was thankful that none of my 165 passes off my trans brake had to transfer the power to the track via a 8.75.



^^^^That’s funny right there!^^^

Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569810
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Ehrenberg, 50 years ago, rebuilt 8-3/4" hams in his parent's apartment, and had them stacked on steel shelving with (probably) every ratio ready-to-go for the original (pre-Green Brick) 1965 Valiant 4-door with 273/235 V8. Quick trip down the elevator to the parking garage, and a DIY in record time.
Horses for courses.

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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2569815
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
That stack of slips proves nothing.


Does to ME and that's the point especially YOU and a couple who swear I never race(d) enough to hurt the pumpkin well, there's 160+ runs there and many more I threw in the trash. I wont waste time arguing or pushing the point as I don't care what you guys think because most know nothing about me, my life or the bad ass THUMPER that's still driven and beat on weekly testing carbs for YOU guys........... drumhit whistling

Dom...you said yourself that a lot of those slips were from a long time ago when the car wasn't nearly as fast as it is now. My point has always been that you make it sound like the car has years and years of 9 sec passes on that same gearset and it doesn't. Not to mention lots of guys will put more than 160 runs on their car in a single season...I have in the past just testing and tuning.
How many of those slips are 9 sec runs?
Beating on it on the street simply will not stress the rear enough to hurt it b/c the traction isn't there to do it, so that claim has no merit here.
I'm not "hating" on you or your car. It runs very well for what it is, no doubt there. Making a few fast passes each year and then claiming it's been running 9s for X amount of years doesn't mean anything when most are thinking you race a lot more than you do. They'll usually take it for a lil while.

A friend has a fast nitrous monte carlo that has a 7.5" 10 bolt in it. It's never been apart since he built it, but he also only races about twice a year. So when he says I've been <this fast> for X amount of years, it means squat to me, but people who ASSUME he races all the time think damn, that rear must be pretty strong.


Again, making a point about how some can kill em with a small block makin 500 hp and some can keep em alive even in the 9's or quicker although I'm not super heavy, the stock unit that Cab built MANY years ago lasted quite well...... beer


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: polyspheric] #2569820
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Ehrenberg, 50 years ago, rebuilt 8-3/4" hams in his parent's apartment, and had them stacked on steel shelving with (probably) every ratio ready-to-go for the original (pre-Green Brick) 1965 Valiant 4-door with 273/235 V8. Quick trip down the elevator to the parking garage, and a DIY in record time.
Horses for courses.

Did I get it right?


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569881
10/26/18 07:03 PM
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: J_BODY] #2569902
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Once again, a variance in anecdotal experiences proves that anecdotal experience is no "proof" of anything. rolleyes


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: slantzilla] #2569911
10/26/18 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
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Thanks Slant! How the hell could I miss THAT one??? In late October???

Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569912
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8.75's some live, some die. True of every axle out there.

Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569920
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I have never broken one with my slow junk, but I have helped change a couple at the track.

1 was in a high 11 second stocker, the other was in the car I just bought after a 10.50 nitrous pass at MATS. Both had teeth knocked out of the ring gear.


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2569980
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Anyone done cryo on the gears? $$? Result?


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: polyspheric] #2570017
10/26/18 11:46 PM
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[quote=polyspheric]Anyone done cryo on the gears? $$? Result? [/quote
A good friend cryos and super rem finished all his 8.75 gears for his NHRA stocker. He saw the light and put a Dana in it this year. He has his 8.75 stuff for sale. I have a brand new MW steel cap from my dumb days.


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: polyspheric] #2570025
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: TRENDZ] #2570126
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Originally Posted By TRENDZ
You can bulk up the housing enough to stop any deflection that causes problems. But that just gets you to the next weak point. The pinion shears off at the yoke.


I did that with a 2.76 741 case 8 3/4. B body, 4 speed, centerforce clutch. Maybe 400 hp 440 on a good day. Axles, u-joints, and then shearing the pinion clean off at the yoke.

Gave up and put a Dana in it back when Dr. Diff was still selling cut down truck housings for a quite reasonable price and never broke another rearend.


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2570182
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda


"Hams". That's a new one! How many names for these things?

3rd Member
Center Section
Pig
Chunk
Gearset
...and now Ham!

What others am I missing?


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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff [Re: sgcuda] #2570804
10/28/18 11:48 PM
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I had the same 3.23 gear 8 3/4 in my Diplomat for close to fifteen years. Put a bit stouter 440 in than the freshened up junkyard one that i beat on for years, along with a centerforce clutch and i barely got a month out of it til it broke a cap and took all the ring gear teeth off. Put another center section in and broke it less than a year later.

Went with a Dana, no sense in continuing to ruin parts that would live for a long time in something else.

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