Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: dizuster]
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10/25/18 10:55 PM
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I think you can stop at #1 and ignore the other 4 in the calculations...lol
Every guy above that said they broke one was in a heavy car, and all the ones that survived were in a light car.
Pretty much sums it up. Less weight is easier on EVERYTHING.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/25/18 11:12 PM
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8 3/4 , once ANYTHING in it breaks, best thing is to replace it......lol
I understand the loyalty, but really this is why mopar guys are are slow. They refuse to just use what works and will take a lot of power. Ok, flame on !
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/25/18 11:15 PM
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Every guy above that said they broke one was in a heavy car, and all the ones that survived were in a light car.
Pretty much sums it up
4,000 lbs. will live only if the other variables are small(ish).
Let's assume a 3,000 lb. (or less) car has to be really violent (big tires, chassis works well, high stall or leave RPM) to break a braced, etc. diff.
Is there a point where a 3,500 lb. car is on thin ice? Certainly lots of those here (and other brands). What combinations are very prone to fail after X starts? Is only 200-300 lbs. more on the axle that critical for traction, or is it the larger total mass resisting acceleration?
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/25/18 11:32 PM
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My friend has a 68 Road Runner 3700ish lb,4speed, 440+6 VERY mild maybe 380hp,never had sticky tires & has broken 3,count them THREE 8 3/4 s, why did Mopar put the 60 in the 440 4speed cars, I think I know the answer.
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
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10/26/18 12:22 AM
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It's amazing that any of these 8.75's are left! I mean according to the people here they blow up if you just start the car!!! LOL. Some of us hoarders, or I mean old guys still have a few laying around.
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/26/18 12:58 AM
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I've got quite a few laying around, but I have 3 cars to use them in.
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/26/18 11:10 AM
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I built a Dana for the new car so I could reuse some of the parts from the old car. Not one single piece was reused, now I wish I would have built a Ford 9" for it.
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
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I built a Dana for the new car so I could reuse some of the parts from the old car. Not one single piece was reused, now I wish I would have built a Ford 9" for it. Why? The 9 isn't lighter and if you run a 3.90 or lower gear the 9 takes more power to drive.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/26/18 11:17 AM
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That stack of slips proves nothing.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: madscientist]
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I built a Dana for the new car so I could reuse some of the parts from the old car. Not one single piece was reused, now I wish I would have built a Ford 9" for it. Why? The 9 isn't lighter and if you run a 3.90 or lower gear the 9 takes more power to drive. Because when you get into big power, you can't build a Dana to be as strong as a 9". Can't backbrace it, limited gear ratios, little pro gears available, etc. Everything under the sun is available for a 9".
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: sgcuda]
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10/26/18 12:58 PM
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I know several people still running 8 3/4 and make them live but like everyone here has gone through, once you have a failure of any part you look to go the best upgrade. I have 7 or 8 racers in my circle and 5 have had 8 3/4 failures. All went to Dana including me and none have had issues with a 60. One of them has had three failures even with billet caps.for the guys that make an 8 8/4 live my hat is off to you.I hope I never have to go through another rear end explosion again, sounded like I was hit by a train🤪
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Re: Proven strength of 8 3/4 diff
[Re: madscientist]
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10/26/18 01:23 PM
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I built a Dana for the new car so I could reuse some of the parts from the old car. Not one single piece was reused, now I wish I would have built a Ford 9" for it. Why? The 9 isn't lighter and if you run a 3.90 or lower gear the 9 takes more power to drive. If I built a 9", it would be an aluminum case, and fab housing with Moly tubes. It for sure would be lighter then the Dana60. Axles, spool, and gears all cost the same, so the extra cost at this point would be worth the weight loss, and added support the pinion gear gets with a 9". Will I change? Doubt it, but looking back, I would have went a different route.
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