Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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I also got 1 from CJ Pony, cheap and easy and it works. So did I. Around $7 bucks if I remember right.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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be sure to turn the ends inward toward the center.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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So can one buy a replacement spring to put in a lower hose, if you wanted one? I went to the local auto parts stores and bought a universal corrugated hose with a spring in it for 10.00. Pulled it and installed in my hose. That's what I did when I pulled the old spring out and it was rusted as #$%^
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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My brand new lower hose on my Power Powagon collapsed while idling in traffic on hot day here in Florida. First time I've had this happen. I noticed when temp gauge shot up and I popped hood and no leaks anywhere. New radiator, milodon water pump, thermostat....everthing is new in cooling system so I figured it might be that.
Also, I've noticed our Charger police cars have spring in upper hoses (reverse flow I guess?), so that kind of defeats the theory they were for factory fill purposes.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Also, I've noticed our Charger police cars have spring in upper hoses (reverse flow I guess?), so that kind of defeats the theory they were for factory fill purposes.
Go back and think about what you just said.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Also, I've noticed our Charger police cars have spring in upper hoses (reverse flow I guess?), so that kind of defeats the theory they were for factory fill purposes.
Go back and think about what you just said. Not very helpful. If I missed something, excuse me! Can you just clear it up for me? Admittedly, I'm not a genius and might have missed something. But, I believe someone wrote they DON'T use springs anymore because they have a different method for factory fill, and that's what the springs were originally for, and NOT for eliminating collapsing hoses during consumer use.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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My Power Wagon runs very cool otherwise. Engine runs great, and it will cruise all day long on the highway at 70mph, and will run in traffic for hours no problem. But that one time on a very hot day, bam, temp shot up and the lower hose was sunk in.
I've done a ton of work on this engine. Just about everything but piston rings. It's had complete valve job, new cam and lifters, radiator, freeze plugs, timing chain, water pump, thermostat, hoses, belts, plugs, wires, ignition, timing set, headers, dual exhausts. It's squared away. I've since bypassed heater since core is at rad shop right now being repaired.
It did not overheat in traffic that time because of something else. I'm going to get a spring for lower hose (or wire if you want to be technical). Thank you to those with helpful answers.
Last edited by larrymopar360; 01/12/19 04:12 PM.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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My truck is '79 with Max Cooling and HUGE lower hose.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Why did they stop with springs in lower rad hoses?
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Here’s my non-scientific pragmatic approach to it......
I’ve seen numerous vehicles through the years suffer from the “bottom hose sucked shut/engine runs hot” scenario........ where adding the “spring” fixed it.
It’s a cheap and easy thing to try........ if it doesn’t help, you’re not out much time or money. If it does...... it was a simple cost effect solution.
If you’re having issues with the lower hose getting sucked shut..... it certainly can’t hurt anything to try adding the spring.
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