Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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You are using A/C and 100% helium aren't you?
I stopped using Argon.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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I'm welding on 110 volts. It has a 220 volt adapter but I didn't get my garage rewired yet. Welding at 120 amps. Pulse turned off.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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With aluminum clean means EVERYTHING!!!!!!
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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08/26/18 10:39 PM
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110? Might be tough on stuff thicker than sheet metal Aluminum takes some heat.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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I want to build up the normal stuff. Intakes, gas tanks, linkage, stuff like that. I'm planning on getting a 220 outlet put in soon.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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08/27/18 12:02 AM
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Do Yourself a favor and get a MIG Welder with at least 250 in the Model # (scales with the thickness in mils (.001") for material) along with amps available from welder and get a spool gun to go with it. TIG welding aluminum is difficult and doesn't get any easier once You learn how. What do You want to fabricate? I completely disagree. If you want to weld fast, with limited welding skills, with little regard for weld integrity or cosmetics, mig is the ticket. If you have patience ( why women often have great tig skills), are willing to practice, and be rather anal on cleanliness ( solvent cleaning, ss sire brush right before welding, brush the tig rod, very clean gloves, etc) Tig is the ticket. A comment was made earlier about 100% helium, that would not be a good suggestion, I often use a 80/20 Argon/Helium mix as it has better heat for thicker alum items. I use a 625A Miller Syncrowave Tig, my mig machine is used 98%? for steel. Cover all your exposed skin, skin cancer is a [censored]. OP, I see worthy progress, be careful about grading your own welds until have broken a few.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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08/27/18 12:15 AM
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I want to build up the normal stuff. Intakes, gas tanks, linkage, stuff like that. Ya won't be doing that with a mig ... stick with your tig and practice, practice, practice. Pulse is your friend. Some of the inverter machines have a "clean" function for doing aluminum, this works like a charm - doesn't mean YOU don't have to clean the stuff first, it just makes it that much better.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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Do Yourself a favor and get a MIG Welder with at least 250 in the Model # (scales with the thickness in mils (.001") for material) along with amps available from welder and get a spool gun to go with it. TIG welding aluminum is difficult and doesn't get any easier once You learn how. What do You want to fabricate? I completely disagree. If you want to weld fast, with limited welding skills, with little regard for weld integrity or cosmetics, mig is the ticket. If you have patience ( why women often have great tig skills), are willing to practice, and be rather anal on cleanliness ( solvent cleaning, ss sire brush right before welding, brush the tig rod, very clean gloves, etc) Tig is the ticket. A comment was made earlier about 100% helium, that would not be a good suggestion, I often use a 80/20 Argon/Helium mix as it has better heat for thicker alum items. I use a 625A Miller Syncrowave Tig, my mig machine is used 98%? for steel. Cover all your exposed skin, skin cancer is a [censored]. OP, I see worthy progress, be careful about grading your own welds until have broken a few. For welding aluminum helium makes more heat at the weld. I even use now for steel. I wouldn't go back.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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I have been brushing with a SS brush, but it was a Harbor Freight piece in the $1 bin, so quality might be questionable. It seems that there are a lot of personal choices on gas. I'm guessing that a lot of it has to do with technique. I have been using straight Argon, but also have a Ar/CO2 mix that I've been using for my Mig. Maybe I'll try using that. I immediately noticed that welding steel is a very quiet, gentle process. Aluminum, I'm guessing it has to do with using A/C, is very noisy and seems to be a pretty angry burn. At least it's my perception. I think I'm backing out of the pedal to make it feel like welding steel, but what I am really doing is killing the heat and losing the puddle. I need to learn how to "Stay into the gas pedal". Lol! And another thing I noticed, aluminum might dissipate heat faster, but it sure does transfer the heat to the rest of the material faster. I can feel it pretty well through the gloves.
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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As soon as the material turns shiney its ready to lay the rod into it.. all I use on alum is 100% argon.. I've been doing alum for a long time.. I enjoy doing alum.. yes a good SS brush helps alot EDIT Also lean the tip of the torch to the heavier/thicker material that will give you a better jump(jump is the point where the second material or filler rod joins as one.. at that time the heat is much more consistent Also on your tungsten.. dont grind it to a point loke you do on the MIG.. use a piece of bronze and flip the machine to reverse then hold the tip vertical and hit the pedal for a moment.. this will give your tip a nice round point(the current will run around in a circle which heats much nicer and that will make for a easier jump for the rod)
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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I have been brushing with a SS brush, but it was a Harbor Freight piece in the $1 bin, so quality might be questionable. It seems that there are a lot of personal choices on gas. I'm guessing that a lot of it has to do with technique. I have been using straight Argon, but also have a Ar/CO2 mix that I've been using for my Mig. Maybe I'll try using that. I immediately noticed that welding steel is a very quiet, gentle process. Aluminum, I'm guessing it has to do with using A/C, is very noisy and seems to be a pretty angry burn. At least it's my perception. I think I'm backing out of the pedal to make it feel like welding steel, but what I am really doing is killing the heat and losing the puddle. I need to learn how to "Stay into the gas pedal". Lol! And another thing I noticed, aluminum might dissipate heat faster, but it sure does transfer the heat to the rest of the material faster. I can feel it pretty well through the gloves. Are you shaping the tungsten into a ball for the aluminum? A/C will always make more noise. I forget how much more I'm paying for helium but it want enough to bother me.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: For anyone who thinks that TIG wedling steel is difficult
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Yes.. you will feel the transfer into your gloves pretty quick.. I use a couple of different materials to keep that low.. either a block of wood or a brick from a catalyst(the brick has very low transfer) they were easy for me to get in the exhaust lab)
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