Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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Posted this in 'Suspension" but no looks yet.
This on a 70 Charger RT, changed to heavier bars this year to remedy what we thought was a sagging bar on driver's side. Now sagging is apparent on that side again.
Figured bar anchor in rear cross member was the culprit, but today's inspection revealed movement in lower control arm asbly.
Looks like we can loosen the suspension to the point where you install a new bar and weld the perimeter of the front anchor.
Does this sound like a fix, or am I missing something?
Thanks, Joe
PS. New adjusting blocks and bolts
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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via the adjuster, see the red part? That rides on the ball of the adjuster bolt and it's part of the T bar socket, it (socket and lever) will rotate with no load on it.
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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Well then, that lends credence to the suggestion that the K-frame may be at fault, I'll look tomorrow.
Thanks, Joe
But....is that lever and socket one piece?
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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No, they can't be or you couldn't install it into the LCA when it's assembled. Good point
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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Check the mounting sleeve in the K-frame itself. I've seen many break loose and spin.
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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That piece in the lower control arm should be stationary and should move with the control arm as it moves thru it's arc twisting the T bar. The tube in shouldn't have a big effect outside of the bushing not twisting as the control arm moves up and down.
I think you should go back to looking at the rear socket , I assume you have marked it to check for movement? the only other thing is if the front socket and it's lever are not actually one piece and are 2 then it could have slipped? I don't have a control arm handy to look at ...
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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After some confusing responses, not all, the best thing for YOU to do is get that control arm off and on the bench to study it. You should see the lever , that adjuster bolt rests into the bottom of, should freely turn WITH the front T bar socket. You can rotate it some, but not 360 degrees tough. Never saw those 2 pieces turn separate of each other. If you upgraded bars, during re-install,don't be surprised when you have to pull the arms down pretty low to insert bar in front and rear.
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Re: Torsion bar anchor slipping?
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I`m thinking that part( the lever and hex head) must be one piece and then they put the 2 halves of the arm together around it. I don`t see how it could move separately from one another. I may be wrong as I never had the arm apart to see for sure. If it is moving then I would just look for a replacement arm. Not sure I would try to repair it.
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