Paint work on a Survivor?
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There is a small area on the lower 1/4 on my survivor Demon that needs to be painted. I've taken it to 3 shops and one wants to use Chroma Base and one wants to use base coat/clear. The color is Y8. Would using a 2 stage give the affected area too much shine/gloss and not match the patina of the 47 year old paint? The paint on the car is in beautiful condition otherwise.
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
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06/05/18 10:34 AM
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Y8 will be a challenge but not impossible to do with a single stage. Keep in mind the best job will still leave a ghost line in a metallic repair. The trick is to minimize it. The right amount of thinning and expanding work area in steps and blending agents can be successful.
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
[Re: formula_s]
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06/06/18 12:04 PM
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There is a small area on the lower 1/4 on my survivor Demon that needs to be painted. I've taken it to 3 shops and one wants to use Chroma Base and one wants to use base coat/clear. The color is Y8. Would using a 2 stage give the affected area too much shine/gloss and not match the patina of the 47 year old paint? The paint on the car is in beautiful condition otherwise. Boy, this question sure hits home. I dealing with pretty much the same issue on my survivor 1969 Dart that is B7 blue. The drivers 1/4 panel was replaced when the car was 3 months old due to an accident. It was painted with lacquer and that paint is now shot. I was counting on a local shop that was run by some old timers to repaint the 1/4, but I just found out that they have closed up and are retiring.
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
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06/06/18 01:40 PM
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in most cases an offer of more money will delay retirement, remember cash is king. I agree, and if its only a quarter panel plus blend they may be interested in it, the only problem is your warranty (if one) retires with them
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
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These guys are all hitting home on this one. Many paints are no longer legal to buy/use (e.g. lead pigments or paints with tons of solvent).
Even if the paint "looks good" there has been "some" fading + every batch of paint (even back in 60's/70's) varied in color just a touch batch-to-batch.
Bottom line... it should be custom color matched. You can get test panels sprayed up (with an appropriate primer as close as possible to the original primer on the car) & blend several small batches to get the customer blend really, really close. Then, have someone who does custom paint work or an auto-restoration shop spray it, blending in the repair, as these guys have mentioned. That's the best you can do.
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
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06/10/18 04:19 PM
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If possible locate the local paint supplier to the body shops in that area and see if they have access to camera that can analyze paint color on car and get a match that way.
the paint supplier's sales people should know who the painters in that area are that know what they are doing and willing to work in conjunction with you and the paint supplier to get the repair done.
I agree with the above keeping it small as possible. I assume repair area is below horizontal body line below marker lamp? Side stripes or no side stripes?
Any good shop should have the camera and their own mixing system.
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Re: Paint work on a Survivor?
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06/10/18 11:27 PM
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[quote=Govierjr.]If possible locate the local paint supplier to the body shops in that area and see if they have access to camera that can analyze paint color on car and get a match that way.
the paint supplier's sales people should know who the painters in that area are that know what they are doing and willing to work in conjunction with you and the paint supplier to get the repair done.
I agree with the above keeping it small as possible. I assume repair area is below horizontal body line below marker lamp? Side stripes or no side stripes?
Yes the area is right below the body line below the side marker light so that would be obvious area to break the new paint. Oddly , the paint scan matches to 2002 Lotus Mars Gold.
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