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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/26/17 09:31 PM
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Does the fender tag VIN match the body numbers? Yes sir
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/26/17 11:06 PM
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Interesting,
So then what color do you paint it Anything other than F8...  Bingo... The world has MORE than enough dark, medium, and light green poly Mopars... Dare to be different... Spray it OO...
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/26/17 11:58 PM
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Hmm, so not the 1st time apparently.
I have a factory paint 69 r4 340 swinger, a 69 ev2, 340 swinger, and this 69 green 340 car, what to do..... already have the f8 paint, I think I will just try to tint what I have to match the factory stuff closer.
Barry I have checked all the unpainted factory spots, all looks f5.
I don’t have any of the factory numbers stuff, but I still like to make them how they were if redoing or as close as possible to some extent.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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12/27/17 12:52 AM
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It would be cool to see photos of the areas you found if you can?
We all love seeing the oddball factory stuff. Barry, I have never spent the time to figure out how on my apple products..... Or I would
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/27/17 12:59 AM
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Dang.
It would be awesome to get photos before the paint covers the details up. I have a bunch of pics and will take more, and try one of these days to make it happen. I’m just doing the motor compartment, rf fender, and the trunk lid for now, I have an app driving to hot august nights this summer, if I paint the whole thing I will never make it lol.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/27/17 01:10 AM
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It would be cool to see photos of the areas you found if you can?
We all love seeing the oddball factory stuff. Barry, I have never spent the time to figure out how on my apple products..... Or I would If you are talking about capturing and sending pics on an iPhone - take the pictures then send them to yourself via email then open on your computer then save then upload to moparts. Or use your USB - attach the phone to your computer.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
[Re: greendart408]
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12/27/17 12:45 PM
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Todays paint mixes will not match perfectly. It's takes a good paint mixer to get it right. The paint stores have spectrometer cameras
that can in your case take a pic of areas on your car that still have the original paint and come up with a mixing formula. The camera only needs at least the size of the coin of a quarter to take a pic.
Also, request the mixer do a "spray out" on some cards to see how it compares to the original paint spot. You may need to pay a little extra for this but it's well worth it.
Also, what plays into the game here is adjusting the spray gun that will be used to spray the car. Adjusting fan width, air pressures, distances of gun to paint surface, speed of gun movement. All the above will affect
how dark or light the paint will come out.
I just had this issue recently when I had to match an imron paint color
because no one sells imron anymore. I did a very good match with an Omni single stage. I tuned my Binks spray gun to those adjustments stated above. About 30 to 45 minutes of trial and error I got the paint looking like the imron color.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
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12/27/17 02:27 PM
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Todays paint mixes will not match perfectly. It's takes a good paint mixer to get it right. The paint stores have spectrometer cameras
that can in your case take a pic of areas on your car that still have the original paint and come up with a mixing formula. The camera only needs at least the size of the coin of a quarter to take a pic.
Also, request the mixer do a "spray out" on some cards to see how it compares to the original paint spot. You may need to pay a little extra for this but it's well worth it.
Also, what plays into the game here is adjusting the spray gun that will be used to spray the car. Adjusting fan width, air pressures, distances of gun to paint surface, speed of gun movement. All the above will affect
how dark or light the paint will come out.
I just had this issue recently when I had to match an imron paint color
because no one sells imron anymore. I did a very good match with an Omni single stage. I tuned my Binks spray gun to those adjustments stated above. About 30 to 45 minutes of trial and error I got the paint looking like the imron color. I agree they do not match, I have had the camera deal done also, had basically the same results on another car, not matching, at the mercy of the mixer in that situation, that place is a joke tho lol, We have done some spray out of this color I'm dealing with now, going to mess with it more, as well as order some f5 to check against.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
[Re: greendart408]
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12/27/17 02:51 PM
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Here is something to think about.
Back in 1969, how accurate did the color come out when the car was painted at the factory?
I bet if you lined up a few of the cars next to each other, that were freshly painted at the factory with that color some would look lighter or darker. Maybe there were variations in hues from car to car with just that one color. Maybe, the batch of paint was running out and more had to
be made to finish the rest of the cars that needed that particular color?
Which brings us to the next question; which car had
the correct color match. Probably none of them.
There are so many factors that affect how a color comes out.
Even those paint chips are slightly off from sample to sample.
I'd say if you can get 80 to 90 percent accuracy in you're mix
you are doing good.
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Re: Fender tag color don't match car color??
[Re: greendart408]
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12/27/17 03:57 PM
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Yes, there were variations in color back in the day just as there are variances now. I still recall how some B5s were bluer than others, for example. Ten years ago PR4 red, PS2 silver, and others were all over the place, and we'd tint accordingly from our bank of toners, record & spray out the variation, and keep that data in a notebook for future reference.
Like gasoline, the chemistry has changed in 40-50 years.
Ink-printed color samples differ from actual paint.
Colors vary in different lighting, and almost always at different viewing angles, takes some effort to balance that out.
It's hard to find a painter who truly wants and understands how to nail a color, and some systems are harder to work with than others.
Every once in a while you can start with a more recent color and tint from there.
Plan on taking some time & committing some expense with a talented painter if you want it right.
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