Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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Personally, I think Pro-Stock died years ago when the body's became carbon fiber blobs with decals loosely resembling something offered by Chevrolet or Dodge. I'm not sure it can be saved by anything at this point.
I'd like to see Factory Stock take the spotlight. If they had to even the field, a weight minimum dictated solely by aero drag coefficient, keeping the cars in bone-stock Sheetmetal, with a factory built chassis and engine combination is something I'd like to see. On a unrelated note, GREAT signature pic!
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/06/17 01:28 PM
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The blocks and heads were REQUIRED to have a factory stamped part number for use in Pro Stock, unless that has changed in the very very recent past. The stuff I had all had Mopar part numbers in the head and on the block. My car also has Mopar part numbers on the entire thing, body, trunk, doors, dash etc. Don't mean much as they submit the parts for NHRA approval and once given they are produced. Same thing happened with the Eicke stuff. The were not the direct Pontiac parts, they casting was changed to make them have a Siamesed exhaust port like a factory head. Just as the latest "Hemi" run in Pro Stock is not a Hemi...
As for the comment is the current Pro Stock internals were laid out on a table I doubt most anyone here could identify them unless they had seen them previously. Age would mean nothing.
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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They fowled up Pro stock when they allowed Grummpy's tube chassis V-8 Vega to run, and every body else had a factory bodied car. you mean like the four link, acid dipped bodied, dusters with hemis? Oh you forgot the Lenco trans
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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It's a good idea. Cunningham, Patrick and those Ford guys can run cool looking Mustangs and be competitive. Cunningham passed away a few years ago.
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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I would bet you will not see 1 Ford or 1 Mopar out there this yr with a GM motor its pro chevy camaro AJ and his dad and Mopar talked to NHRA about prostock and they wanted no part of what Mopar was asking for so they said see you later Just let it die I think you'll see a couple chevy powered darts, purely because they could be picked up cheap(ish) and they are pretty slick.
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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Great more uninformed people on the planet (or the same amount with with more ammo).......I can hear them now boy those Toyota's really run. Just another reduction to the intelligence for the almighty dollar. I have good friend that swears that Top fuel engines are Chevy because of the advertising on the body. Even after showing him the pics of that teams engine. Ever listen to stock car racing fans talk about their favorite Ford, Chevy, or Toyota. Exactly why I haven't watched any professional racing on TV for almost 2 decades. Heck I usually don't even read these post about them. I would love to watch some bracket, sportsman, or swamp-buggy racing any day. But for some reason they won't show that. Man I miss Sundays with Diamond P sports on TNN . I know times have changed..... Ever look at John Force's funny car engine? say's Chevrolet right on top of the valve cover, got to believe that right? LOL
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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They fowled up Pro stock when they allowed Grummpy's tube chassis V-8 Vega to run, and every body else had a factory bodied car. you mean like the four link, acid dipped bodied, dusters with hemis? Oh you forgot the Lenco trans Tube chassis Dusters where not allowed until a year after Jenkin's Funny car Vega and they had to carry a .50 lb per c.i. weight penalty with a Hemi which was changed to .75 half way through the next season.
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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12/08/17 12:11 PM
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You and me noth Dave. Anyone who plays in an NA world and is not impressed by 500 cubes at 2350lbs running 6.50's is nuts....
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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And on the opposite note, power adders are VERY predictable and SHOULD go that fast.........500 cubes all motor, let that sink in plus w/enuff $$$ all of us can make just about anything fly........... Look at the Oklahoma Outlaws now, big $$$, fast et's WHEN they can get down the road/track and where does it end and how many more crashes will need to take place before people realize you can buy/build endless power which eventually can and will kill you........... Power adders are far from predictable. Not many N/A cars are just starting to lift the wheels at the 330 mark, or start to lose traction at half track.
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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The same guy who thought EFI and losing the hood scoops would save the class now thinks essentially a spec engine will save the class.
Wrong again WJ.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: The Pro Stock circus continues
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The same guy who thought EFI and losing the hood scoops would save the class now thinks essentially a spec engine will save the class.
Wrong again WJ. Considering this was done because it’s what the teams asked for, I’d take the opinion of someone who actually competed in the class for 40 years, over that of the fans. Personally, I think pro STOCK died in about 1973.
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