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Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... #2360682
08/27/17 05:33 PM
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Has anyone run into a situation where their power steering box and power steering pump call for different fluids?

From what I understand, Borgeson only calls for power steering fluid in their boxes. Alternatively, my GM-type power steering pump only wants ATF.

I am up to 200 miles on my car and have only run RedLine P/S fluid in it and cannot seem to get rid of the pump whine. I am thinking I will try swapping over to ATF and see how that goes...what have you used?


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Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2360716
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ATF in mine.
Now my Borg box leaked like a sieve the moment I started the engine, but was due to a pinhole in a weld.
A few strikes with a punch fixed that.

Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2360867
08/27/17 10:59 PM
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Call Scott at Bergman.

Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2360898
08/27/17 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
ATF in mine.
Now my Borg box leaked like a sieve the moment I started the engine, but was due to a pinhole in a weld.
A few strikes with a punch fixed that.



Ok, there's one Borg box with ATF in it that's lived. Good news!


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1976 Dodge Warlock - "Her Truck" - 360/727 2wd
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Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2361576
08/29/17 09:20 AM
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Bump, anyone else using ATF in a Borgeson box?

Thanks!


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Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2361594
08/29/17 10:36 AM
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atf will be fine.


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Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2368440
09/10/17 08:00 PM
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Either way is fine, but synthetic PS fluid is best. If you have a hydroboost, atf is poison.

Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #2368458
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In general, older style PS pumps which ran ATF as original seem to do fine on power steering fluid. I would not worry about the pump with either.

Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #2428931
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Originally Posted By BergmanAutoCraft
Either way is fine, but synthetic PS fluid is best. If you have a hydroboost, atf is poison.


Why is ATF poison to Hydroboost setups? Dodge diesel 4x4 trucks use ATF+4 in their power steering systems.


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Re: Borgeson Box wants P/S fluid, P/S pump wants ATF... [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #2429220
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Originally Posted By BergmanAutoCraft
Either way is fine, but synthetic PS fluid is best. If you have a hydroboost, atf is poison.
The bus yard I work @ has 30 small busses- Fords and GMs over a span of 30 model years, they all have Hydroboost and all use ATF- factory fill.


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