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Which mini starter? #2356785
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Seen this question in the past. Need a mini starter for a 484 hemi with 10.8 compression. Don't feel like buying a high dollar unit if the stock ones work fine. I thought I read in the past that some guys were using a starter from a small block Dodge Dakota. What do you guys recommend? Thanks

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2356858
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Thats all I use on all of my stuff
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Thats all I use on all of my stuff
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yup,25 bucks at the jy

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2356912
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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2357059
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6 months ago I bought a autozone 17677
lifetime warranty 105.00 plus core.

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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: mkdart] #2357111
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Same here .. 2 years and going strong .. 12.5 to 1 no problems at all spinning it fine ..

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2357214
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I've read that a starter from a Dakota works well. My question is what year Dakota which engine,trans. I need one for a 440 with a 727. Thanks.

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2357230
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All these use the starter you need
D150 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1993
D150 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1993
D150 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991
D150 V8 5.9L 360cid 1993
D250 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1993
D250 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1993
D250 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1993
D350 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1993
Dakota V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1995
Dakota V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1995
Ram 1500 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1994-1995
Ram 1500 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1994-1995
Ram 1500 V8 5.9L 360cid 1994-1995
Ram 2500 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1994-1995
Ram 2500 V8 5.9L 360cid 1994-1995
Ram 3500 V8 5.9L 360cid 1994-1995
Ram 4000 V8 5.9L 360cid 1995
Ramcharger V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1993
Ramcharger V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1993
W150 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1993
W150 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1993
W150 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991
W150 V8 5.9L 360cid 1993
W250 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1993
W250 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1993
W350 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1993
B150 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1994
B150 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1994
B1500 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1995
B1500 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1995
B250 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1991-1994
B250 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1994
B250 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1994
B2500 V6 3.9L 3906cc 239cid 1995
B2500 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1995
B2500 V8 5.9L 360cid 1995
B350 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1991-1994
B350 V8 5.9L 360cid 1991-1994
B3500 V8 5.2L 5211cc 318cid 1995
B3500 V8 5.9L 360cid 1995

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2357550
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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358278
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The list from 590Challenger uses a 17181 model at Autozone. Mkdart used a 17677 model. Anyone know the difference?

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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358312
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I bought a used one from junk yard 12 years ago, came off 95 dodge truck with 5.2. I put new a new spring, plunger and contacts in it 2 years ago, $11 worth of parts and back on the road.

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358358
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Originally Posted By maximus
The list from 590Challenger uses a 17181 model at Autozone. Mkdart used a 17677 model. Anyone know the difference?

All those apps I listed should be the exact same starter. I have no idea why Auto zone and Mkdart have different part numbers, industry number is a 17466, Chrysler 53005984, Denso 128000-7810, 128000-7812. You can buy good new ones on ebay, it such a good design even the China imports work great. I had mine in for years and I hammer it with 24 Volts

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358516
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Advanced Auto reman mini for a 360 Dodge truck in my 12.5 440.Been in at least 15 years and going strong.Even super close to the headers.Rocky


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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358537
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Napa here with 16 volts. Carry a spare in the trailer that I've never used. I bought a Speedmaster off of e-bay for the Dart and it's great too.

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2358600
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My kid bought a new one from 440 Source also for his 413 62 300.It was on for like 4 or 5 years and no problems when he sold the car.Think it was like 65 bucks new.Rocky


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Re: Which mini starter? [Re: 590 Challenger] #2359269
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When I bought that starter.I was not sure witch one
to ask for.
I told them give me one for a 02 Dakota 5.9
17677 is the number that comes up.

This starter is physically bigger than the
Mancini mini I replaced.

Before I did the starter,I installed a firm feel
sector support kit that supports the pitman
arm.

I was able to remove the mancini starter no
problem. But I had to drop the drag link to
get the auto zone starter on.

This is a small block W/TTI step headers(W2)
stick shift.

Mike

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I picked up a 17466 from Advance Auto. The tech/archive post above states that it is 21 mm shorter than the others. At the bottom of the motor there is only 3/8" clearance from the 2 1/8 hemi headers from TTI. That is the tightest point on the install. So I go to mount on the header and pull the gaskets out of the box and find out they are for a 340. They shipped me the wrong ones with the hemi headers. I'll never finish the car at this rate.

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2359908
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just bought a new one from jegs powermaster high torque mini starter 63.00 bucks ?

Re: Which mini starter? [Re: maximus] #2359935
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Originally Posted By maximus
I picked up a 17466 from Advance Auto. The tech/archive post above states that it is 21 mm shorter than the others. At the bottom of the motor there is only 3/8" clearance from the 2 1/8 hemi headers from TTI. That is the tightest point on the install. So I go to mount on the header and pull the gaskets out of the box and find out they are for a 340. They shipped me the wrong ones with the hemi headers. I'll never finish the car at this rate.
Oh man that sucks about the headers.


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