Just wondering what this group thinks?

What is the rarest C-Body from 1965 to 1973?

I tend to lean towards the Hurst 300 models, esp the vert

I would guess those with a factory 4-speed.

My guess, without researching a few "1-of-None's" that may or may notexist, would be a 70 Sport Fury 440-6 pak V-code.

Anyone that still has escaped the wrath of the demo derby crowd. I almost bought a 69 Polara 500 convertible with a 383 2-bbl and a 3-speed on the tree...

I always thought it was this. 70 300 Hurst convertible - quantity 2

Actually 3 proposed by Chrysler marketing, 2 ordered by Chrysler, only ONE built by Hurst, so in my book it's the rarest...

The 70 Sport Fury GT's are perhaps the "sweetest" looking C bodies

I built my own 70 300Hurst ragtop (hence the A12rag) . . . and have seen 3 others that were put together . . . I think that because the 300Hurst cars are still out there, the 70 Sport Fury GT 440-6 pak V code would be rarest ??? Although I have seen a few 4door stick cars, factory. And how about a 70 fury I, 4door, slant six, with 3 on the tree ! Who would have ordered that ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

As was mentioned before, ANY C body that escaped the derby wrath !!!

Just my 2cents . . .

Cheers,

Some of the rarest are the 300 Hurst, especially the convertible, 440-6 GT's and the 65 Sport Fury Convertible 426W 4-Speed cars.

The rarest would be the Pilot 65 Fury III 426 Street Hemi car, the Street Hemi was being considered for the C-Body line up in 66, but shelved and only put in the B-Body. The 65 Street Hemi Coronet (B-Body) and 65 Fury (C-Body) supposedly lived around the same time.

In a local wrecking yard around here there was a 67 Sport Fury, L code, convert 4 speed. Can't have been to many of those made.

My 65 Monaco 413 4 spd 40 yrs ago,even hauled a 24' travel trailer with it..

Cool. Learned something new today.

Rumor is that a 1970 Hurst prototype will be at the Hurst reunion in Carlisle next week. From what I heard, it is a bit different than the production units.

I am not well educated on the 65's and cant say as to any possible Hemis,
so , other than that , only two examples of rare AND extremely valuable come to mind . The 1970 300 Hurst convertibles , and the 1970 Sport Fury GT 440+6 . A nice example of either one could fetch some serious money from the right collector . If a guy had deep pockets and wanted to collect one example of each of Plymouth's Rapid Transit System from 1970, he's going to need a
Sport Fury GT, and of course the 440+6 would be the one to get. Problem is, just try to find one . They built what , about 61 or so ? but only about ten known to exist on planet earth right now , and about 7 or 8 of those are basket cases..Probably one of the most under valued and under appreciated cars in the world of Mopars.
And while we are on the subject, people, please stop calling Plymouths 'six packs' that's a Dodge only term . We call Plymouths "Six Barrels" .

Greg

I owned a 440 6 BBL RoadRunner back in the day from early 1972 to 1997 and another one from 2004-2015 and always called them Six Pack RoadRunners regardless of the name on the hood. If you called it a six pack RoadRunner or a sixpack Bee, everyone knew it was a Plymouth or a Dodge respectively. The term "six pack" is just the common description for any Mopar with three 2's. It was never a debate back then for us old school owner's (and I know you are old school too). My recollection is that we mostly called them all six packs and I feel newer owners/collectors, who weren't hanging out at McD's looking for a street race or racing it at the track on the weekend only know them in the modern era by the name badge on the hood. A sixpack is a sixpack plus it sounds sexier than calling it a sixbbl. It's really not necessary to be politically correct about Plymouths and Dodges.

I have a Plymouth with Six Barrel's / 6BBL. That's what's it is and that's what I call it. Call it whatever you want....it's badass!!!

Hmmmm...I see some "Plymouths" had "Tri-Power" under the hood...available right off the dealers lot, brandy new in 1971

Must be a Pontiac!

Plymouth VIP ? ( Similar to Sport Fury )

I believe they were made 1967 - 1969 ?

WHOA, GRAB THE RUDDER WE'RE WAY OFF COURSE.

I have always thought it was cool that every division had a name for everything , Same color, but Dodge called it this and Plymouth called it that . Same with Ford and Mercury , or Buick , Olds , Pontiac, Chevrolet etc.
It's what makes them unique , sets them apart from the crown .
People spent a lot of time coming up with those unique ad campaigns and slogans , like "white hat special" that's Dodge, not Plymouth .
Scat pack applies to Dodge, Rapid Transit system is Plymouth .
I am the kind of person that always tries to call it what it is , not what the sheep say . That's just me . But, people are always going to call Super Commandos "Magnums" they are going to call Dodge N96 ramcharger hoods "airgrabbers' , people will always call magazines "clips"
People will always call Detroit lockers, twin grips and sure grips by the GM "posi" term and six barrels will always be called six packs by 99% of the population .
I am certainly not trying to be "politically correct", just simply correct ,
or at least reasonably close as often as possible.
That's just me . Your results may vary .
To me when I hear someone refer to a Plymouth as a six pack, it sounds exactly the same as it they said they were going to the Plymouth dealer
to look at all the new Scat pack cars ...it just doesn't jive man .
I guess when you do this Mopar gig every day in one aspect or another for over 30 years, you just get set in your ways.
I am still going to cringe when I see a 69 GTX with a 440 magnum pie tin on the air cleaner . Dat ain't right . Don't even get me started on Plymouths with bumble bee stripes ...


Greg

The rarest would be a 1971 Plymouth Sport Fury GT 6bbl. Only available for one month, August, 1970.

How many where built?

Supposedly 64.

I always thought the number was 15

IMHO, 3,5,15 or 64, it still can't hold a candle to the 1 of 1 Hurst 300 vert for "rarity", which is the OP's objective


And in the looks dept between a 70 vs 71 Sport Fury GT, the 70 is the cat's meow hands down...

Mike

Can't argue any of that, but did they make any 70 Sport Fury GT six barrels? Oh wait, GG lists 61 made.

I agree the 300H vert is tree rareist

the rarest C body?
one that wasn't made a organ donor!

How about the 1968 Sport Fury Convertible 440HP, 4-spd with A/C? Triple black. 1 of 1.

the 1971 440 6bbl Fury GT was cancelled - do you KNOW for a fact any were built?

So,....how about 1966 Dodge Monaco 440 -4spd!

Any ideas as to where the 65 Fury III 426 Hemi Pilot Car actually is, or does it exist?

Don't know how many were produced(consensus says but a handful)but in the past 10 or so years of ownership have not found proof of another still in existence or any that went to the bone yard.......1965 Dodge Monaco 426W with a 4 speed. As far as any one can tell it may be(but who truly knows)the only one left in existence. Have the Chrysler Historical docs to prove she is the real deal. Still waiting to see proof of another...... Valuable? To some maybe,maybe not. Rare....probably in the top 5 or worst top 10 list for rarity.

I tend to agree with you Dan. That would also be good explanation for why Dan C's two early promo 71s were both T code 71s, rather than U code cars like the rest of the 71s. ..."Well if we are going to cancel the V code 71s (we only sold 61 last year anyway) lets go ahead and upgrade the 4bbl cars from T to U for 71....." imaginary conversation from the top floor guys at Chry/Ply...

billyfury 70-71 Fury Collector-
www.sportfurygt.com

This is the first time I have ever heard of a 1971 Sport Fury GT V-Code. Wow I'd love to see that!

Dave

When I was a kid my Dad had a dark blue 65 Monaco Custom 880 with a 426 Wedge but his was an automatic with bucket seats & console floor shifter. Every Monaco or Polara I ever see always has a column auto. I remember he had some sort of proof & documentation that it was an Ex F.B.I. car. I still can remember how fast it seemed for such a big car. It was just before my driving age & he traded it off for a Family station Wagon!!!! Wish I could have bought it from him to this day.

Your dad had either a Monaco or a Custom 880,there was no 65 Monaco Custom 880.Also,all 65 Monaco's were bucket seat console,no column shift.I had both,the 413 4 spd I mentioned above and a 383 console auto.

Thinking back on it now it was a Custom 880. The Monaco look almost the same.

Consensus so far:

'70 Hurst Convertible
'70 Sport Fury GT 6BBL
'71 Sport Fury GT 6BBL (none of none?)
'71 Sport Fury GT
'70 300/Hurst

Any 4-speed C Body convertible
Any 4-speed C Body
Any 440 HP C Body

....yes?.....

BELVEDERE, ILLINOIS plant

[1] PH23VOD105485 Sunfire yellow/black, black strobe stripes, power bucket seats, console shift, black vinyl top, brougham package, power windows, 3:23 S/G, H/D disc brakes, 8/11/69 built Y28 public relations car, magazine test car [may 70 road test magazine] has orig trans!..engine gone, Needs total resto

[2] PH23VOD146869 Blue/blue, black strobe stripes, bucket seats, console shift, black vinyl top, no eng/trans, needs total resto

[3] PH23VOD148040 Nothing else known at this time

[4] PH23VOD165531 Silver car/black, black strobe stripes, bench seat, column shift, power windows, black vinyl top, no eng,has orig trans, Y14 special order, needs total resto

5] PH23VOD243795 Dark blue/black, no eng/trans, needs total resto

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NEWARK, DELAWARE plant

[1] PH23VOF131347 Blue/blue, white strobe stripes, bucket seats, console shift, no vinyl top, numbers matching car, 40k miles, needs resto

[2] PH23VOF143370 Black/black, white strobe stripes, column shift ,bench seat, no vinyl top, 3:23 S/G, H/D disc brakes, Y14 special order. Original engine/trans gone, Needs total resto

V6W Y14 END
TX9 A52 M25 M26 M31 R11
TX9 H4XA TX9 A15 205750
E87 D32 PH23 VOF 143370

[3] PH23VOF144031 Black/burnt orange, orange strobe stripes, bucket seat, console shift, no vinyl top, 3:23 open, H/D disc brakes, Original engine/trans gone, Needs total resto

V6K END
L42 M25 M26 M31 P45 R11
TX9 A01 A52 C16 C55 L31
TX9 H6K4 FK5 A16 087601
E87 D32 PH23 VOF 144031

4] PH23VOF148998 Burnt orange/burnt orange, black strobe stripes, bucket seats, console shift, champagne top, numbers matching car, needs total resto

[5] PH23VOF169388 Ice blue/blue, black strobe stripes, bucket seats, console shift, black vinyl top, 3:23 open, drum brakes, numbers matching car! Needs resto

6] PH23VOF------ Burnt orange/burnt orange, white strobe stripes, bucket seats, console shift, no vinyl top, power windows, #,s matching car, Y14 special order car, needs resto

Just saw a beautiful 1965 Newport Convertible 383 4 speed Can't be many

1968 Polara 500 440 4-speed convertible...

6 built...

A while back I had a 70 Polara Convertible "T" code 440 with A/C.
FE5 Red, black top, Black interior.

Pretty rare

I wish I had it back...Sold it to a guy in Northern IL. around 2003-2004.

This car has been restored

billyfury
www.sportfurygt.com

Car looks great. Tell us about the color of paint the put on it.

I would agree!!

I tend to agree with you Dan. That would also be good explanation for why Dan C's two early promo 71s were both T code 71s, rather than U code cars like the rest of the 71s. ..."Well if we are going to cancel the V code 71s (we only sold 61 last year anyway) lets go ahead and upgrade the 4bbl cars from T to U for 71....." imaginary conversation from the top floor guys at Chry/Ply...

Billy: The reason that Dan Corley's two(and probably even more than those) were built as T code cars was BECAUSE the V code option was still available until the end of August of 1970(the cancellation date for any 1971 V code Sport Fury's). Whether any were actually built is probably still unknown, but the fact that they WERE a legitimate option, and the striping for them is in any 1970-71 parts book, proves that they were known to be available, even if it was only for a month.
The T and V codes were both carry overs from the 1970 model year. As of Sept. 1, 1970, both were discontinued and the U code replaced them. At least these facts, along with actual part numbers for striping, etc. are in your parts book. More than can be said for a 70 Hurst convertible.

Agreed.

I think there are rarer C-bodies built than what's been listed. I think there's been too much emphasis on sportier models when I think the rarest would be the lesser trim levels and/or more pedestrian body styles.

How about this Diego:

1969 Plymouth Fury Snapper. 440 HP L code Snapper. Possibly the rarest?

Rarest and desirable are often found at opposite ends of the spectrum and very "rarely" meet on occasion

Here is a couple of rare ones. 65 Chry 300 413 / 4spd One owner. Possibly 2 to 4 built. Believe he still has it.

65 Dodge c body 2 built for FBI. IIRC 383 8 barrel cars / auto.Well known cars.

More than four on the 300.

Back in the early 90's, Jim Manning Chrysler Dodge in Dinuba California had a gold 300L convertible 4-speed combo on their used car lot. Pretty sure there were not too many of those. The 413 had been replaced with a 440, so I passed the opp to purchase.

Well, you're comparing bodystyle/engine/tranny and adding a vinyl top? Not quite an apples to apples comparison.

Anyway, here's a quick view of some of the rarest in the White Book:

1968 Sport Fury ragtop "regular" 440: 2
Same with 383-2 and 3-speed: 4

1968 Fury III with 383-2 and 3-speed: 4

1968 Fury II 2-door sedan 440HP: 3
Same with 383-4 and 4-speed: 4
Same with 383-2 and 3-speed: 3

1968 Fury I with 383-4 and 4-speed: 3

I had a 1968 Chrysler Town and country long roof. Was loaded to the hilt. 440, had rear A/C, rear facing seat, factory dual exhaust, stereo tape player, auto pilot, tilt and tele column, power EVERYTHING, roof rack! Can't be many like that produced.

So there is no breakdown of the 69 Polara 500 convertible with a 383 and 3-speed on the tree, I almost bought one for the pedals. The car was a driver and it ended up driving down to Florida from Illinois. If someone has the breakdown of the 69 Polara's and Monaco's lets see it!

Currently the updated White Book is 1966-68. I've never seen any 1969 numbers.

I am ASSuming that you have the 69-71 book?

I do, but it's not the most updated one, and I've never seen any info that suggests the most up-to-date 1969-71 book has C-body numbers beyond general production.

I'm sure someone on here can confirm.

Does the white book have numbers on 1968 Fury III four door hardtop with 383-4 and 4 speed? And 1968 Fury III Convertible 383-4 with 4 speed?

Thanks

1968 Fury III four door hardtop with 383-4 and 4 speed: just shows automatics at 932 US-spec cars.

1968 Fury III Convertible 383-4 with 4 speed: 25 US-spec

Does this one apply?

http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3283g.htm?load_img=5

Nope, too much PINK!

There was at least one 1968 Fury III 4 door hardtop with a 4 speed.

1968 Fury Fender Tag

We know there was at least one, but it's not in the presented statistics.

I'd just like to thank everybody for posting here.

I am actually very surprised at the amount of interest in these great cars.

Good to see the enthusiasm!!!

The fact that Dan's two "T" code 71 Sport Fury GT's exist, and probably another couple, means that the "V" code 71 was indeed available until the end of August, when it was officially cancelled. The two "T" codes that Dan had were the base model, so to speak of 1971 GT's. The optional one was a "V" code until the end of August, both of Dan's cars are August 1970 builds. Whether any were built, who knows, but the fact is: It was possible to order one in that month time period, if you wanted one. Even the parts book for 1971 shows a complete striping for the hood specifically showing either 440 or 44+6. In my mind, that is more evidence that they were indeed available, if you wanted to order one.

Still going to go with the 70 300Hurst ragtop . . . here is mine from trip to Spring Fling 2002 . . . .

We bought a '71 Chrysler back around 2000-ish? Red with a white vinyl top, interior and factory sunroof. 440 car.

Car is long gone.

I own1 of the rarest C-body!! 1969 Dodge Monaco 500 Convertible DP27L9..... 1 of 2 made with a 440. The other one is a K code 440 so he has the only K-code and I have the only L code. on top of that the Monaco 500 were built and sold only in Canada.
https://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/threads/1969-dodge-monaco-500-convertible-numbers.13322/

Kevin Carpenter
1968 Newport Custom
1969 Dodge Monaco 500 Conv
1969 Plymouth Belvedere
1989 Dodge Lancer Shelby
1992 Chrysler Daytona IROC R/T
2004 Dodge SRT-4

Cool! I sold my 69 Monaco 500 convertible last year, only a 318 auto but all of them are rare. I used to own a 69 Polara 500 convertible L code and wish I still had both of them...

Here's an excerpt from the 6/70 1971 Plymouth order sheet. Would this have been the order sheet version in place for August of 1970? Was there a revision after this version? Am I missing something under the engine codes? How could/would one order the E87 version?

This one?

How about a 67 (if I remember correctly) Chrysler 300, 440, 4 spd., 2.76 Dana, Triple Black.

We picked up a 70 or 71 (Don't recall) Chrysler in West Tulsa that was red with white vinyl top and had a factory steel sunroof.

A buddy scrapped it

What, no love for the 74's?

I heard it still existed without badges. In Michigan I believe. I read that they cast 2 sets of exhaust manifolds. I would like to see them and see what they looked like.

While not the rarest C body, my old '69 300 convertible is rare.
Chrysler produced only 1,933 convertible 300's that year.
I don't know if there is a breakdown between 375hp TNT 440's...
vs...350 HP 440's built.

I used to have a 1968 Chrysler 300 convertible.
Black with red interior, white top, 440 auto TNT car.
I have yet to come across another one in same color combo, In ANY engine combination. And have only found maybe 3 or 4 drop tops that were TNT cars.

Unfortunately, I lost it in a fire several years back and the burnt hulk was junked. Still have the fender tag as a reminder though!

Funny you should say that. We got a striped 300 Hurst car that someone stole the drivetrain out of and only left front brakes, hood and trunklid. Parted what was left and gave it to my derby buddy who got three runs out of it. Was said to be a rare care because it had a center console and performance axle package.