but are they not all the same China forging??--me thinks so I don not believe Callies used anything but import forgings just like everyone else--polish them nice and make them look good charge more

I don't know about the bb cranks but I can tell you for certain my sb Callies crank was indeed forged right here in the good ol us of a not only was it stamped right in the crank I was also told that straight from Callies at the time of order they even told me the name of the foundry but that I do not remember as it was years ago.

When Dan was doing those crank sales,Im pretty sure Dan was getting unfinished cranks and grinding them to what the customers wanted.

O.D. the counterweights on a china forging and then do a callies and you will know right away the callies is made with better material. The china crank is super noisy with cherry red chips and sparks flying, they must put old files and what ever old junk they could find in the steel. The callies puts off a curled straw color chip and sounds smooth while cutting.

I'm not going to get into the debate on where Callies cranks are made, I' myself just going to buy Molnar and be happy.

Callies magnum are timken steel. The rest are all coolie steel. The Callies mopar magnum was the last high quality, reasonable cost, excellent machined, high power crank available. They could take 1500 hp in stride, and often more. There is no other option of that quality, for same money. I've seen Ohio, Scat, Eagle, all flex, and wipe out bearings from what a callies would have taken in stride.

Having to go to china for a crank, I'd go with Scat, since the machine work is better than the others.

Discarded fuel cranks are great, if you want to buy an adapter flywheel, run factory rod journals, and can use a splined snout (older press fits are not used anymore) and want only one or strokes to choose from.

All this is why there are so few good parts out there for a mope. Introduce something great, and get told a 904 head story, or a factory crank in a fuel car tale. Manufacturers must be insane to deal with old mopar stuff.

I'm pretty sure the Callie's cranks were forged in Kentucky.

I think one of the things that put a damper on Callie's mopar crank sales was the lack of blocks for years.
Most guys building street/strip strokers out of stock blocks aren't in need of a Callie's quality crank........ And having to pay $5000+ for an aluminum block didn't sit well with everyone.

When you could buy a megablock or world iron block for less that 3g's, it left a little more in the budget for a "nicer" crank.

On top of that........ The Chinese cranks are definitely finished better than they were 10 years ago.

Like many things that have happened in this hobby over the last 5-10 years....... This is another thing that doesn't give me that warm and fuzzy feeling.

Crabman 173 said, "but are they not all the same China forging??--me thinks so I don not believe Callies used anything but import forgings just like everyone else--polish them nice and make them look good charge more."

Once again somebody throws mud without checking the facts. EVERY Callies branded crank or connecting rod is forged in the USA. Five minutes on their website would have informed you.

When Callies started losing sales to Chinese forgings they brought out a new brand, Compstar. The Compstar was/is competitive in price and features with the other Chinese forging brands.

http://www.callies.com/compstar/

If you go to the Callies Website you will see a page for cranks and a page for rods. Then you will see a page for Compstar. The Compstar products are not listed with the Callies parts.

R.

Thank you dog!

I'd like to see some of these 1500 hp bracket race engines I'm hearing about. If, you're in the Pro classes you need the good crank, If, you're out with the Street Outlaws ,maybe, you need one. Like the one guy said, they use a BBC crank forgings, who uses mopar size bearing anymore? All this whining and crying for nothing. Buy a raw forging and get it cut by your favorite crank grinder.

SCAT did a fully machined, super lightweight crank for my 470 engine. Might not be quite as nice as a Callies crank, but I don't have any problems running this SCAT in my engine.

If I need to step up past 1000 hp there are several folks making billet cranks. I really like the Callies cranks that I've used in the past but if they aren't going to make Mopar cranks anymore then I'll use Molnar or SCAT for the budget engines and find something else for the big buck engines.

Again I say Mopar owners are our own worst enemies.

Question for the builders....are Callies cranks marked, or is there a way to positively ID them?

Just another quality product that has left the market due to the buying habits of Mopar guys....

What about Crower? They have always made quality products. Are their premium cranks Chinese forgings?

I did my part and bought a 4.75 stroke last year!

This looks like it would do the job. https://www.crower.com/crankshafts/crankshaft-4340-lightweight-chrysler-426-hemi-4-500-stroke.html

I have three engines currently together and running. We have a Crower, Moldex and Bryant cranks in them. All high quality stuff that I wont have to worry about in the future. HP from 1000-1250

Al I think it's easier to [censored] about what's not available than to research what is. Lol

At this point I agree..But there is still stuff out there. Love the KB thread, yeah they definitely had some issues the last few years but how many commenting there will ever order one or have ordered one in the past. We have one of each aluminum block right now..

There are lots of 1500 hp mopes out there on callies cranks. Any big inch combo with a couple kits on it does it easy. The chepo stuff won't take it, period, end of story.

Like is being repeated here, the attitude of too many mopar people is the reason a product like this is lost to us. Not being able to get these cranks in the future is a huge deal. For reasons like Al said, pay 5-7 G for a good aluminum block, and the budget might need adjusting. Well, who wants to put a cheap crank in it? You could, and still can, while they last, go with a callies, and be ok to make power. Later, it's going to be spent 3500+ dollars for a crank that's up to task.