Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/10/17 02:42 PM
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So in a fine turn of events, I'm relocating from Warshington to central Oregon in a few weeks. As you may know, Oregonians can't pump their own gas and no exceptions for weird cars.
The filler on my 67 Coronet wagon has always been unkind to full-flow fills – if I don't hang the nozzle half out of the opening it will back up the filler tube or spash back out of the hole.
The vent tubes work - you can see gas come out of them and squirt back down the filler as the tank starts getting full, but they can't keep up. This is a non-emissions car so I only have the tank-to-filler vents, no engine-side fuel vapor stuff.
Is there later-model hardware or some modification I can do to get the car just take full flow from a modern pump without backing up the tube? I can't take the car to a place where they just lock the pump open and walk away, I will dump gallons down the side of the car...
1967 Dodge Coronet Deluxe station wagon
1.03" T-bars, QA1 arms/rods, Cordoba/GM Metric/Volare brake & knuckle, XHDs, Hellwig rear sway, 318 Magnum w/ air gap, 727, 3.23s
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
[Re: Secret Chimp]
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05/10/17 03:01 PM
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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Washington has the doofy vapor boots too, but if you do the old two-hand to hold the thing back so you can eye the filler it's worked fine. The vent design does not seem that great - they really barf out gas at first, but it stops being able to move enough air after the tank is maybe 2/3 full and it starts backing up the filler tube. I'll have to note where around that tends to happen for me so I can let people know. I was planning on filling at home via larger jerry cans for the most part, but I do want to drive out of combat radius once in awhile too. That's good to know - I've had a hard time reading how it would go in my 90s cars. I'm going to be in the west side of Eugene. I really like Deschutes beer, so Bend is on my short list for first trips post-move Really looking forward to being down in Oregon, there's so much new big $ up here you don't see hardly any old bangers out and about day to day compared to just 5 years ago. Everyone's clueless about getting their hands dirty...
1967 Dodge Coronet Deluxe station wagon
1.03" T-bars, QA1 arms/rods, Cordoba/GM Metric/Volare brake & knuckle, XHDs, Hellwig rear sway, 318 Magnum w/ air gap, 727, 3.23s
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
[Re: Secret Chimp]
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05/10/17 11:44 PM
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I had to fill my 2006 Ram 3500 CTD up today and buy some E85 for this weekend for the toy, I ask the attendant about people filling their own rigs ( ) up he said the UPS drivers and a lot of other classic car owners do their own filling up at that station I biker guy rode in on a Harley looking road bike and the same attendant handed him the fuel handle to fill his bike up I don't drive my 1969 Dart 383 4 speed GTS very often but when I do a lot of the attendant will ask me if I want to fill up, which I do Eugene is in the liberal side of the state so be wary about violating their space and laws, lots of liberal nerds over their
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/11/17 03:32 AM
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My Challenger will only accept fuel if you hold the nozzle handle up and aim the nozzle at the bottom of the fill tube. You cannot set the handle and let it go at any speed. This is a '71, and here in CA with the vapor recovery BS pumps, the shield is bigger than the opening in the flip-top cap. Sucks.
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
[Re: Secret Chimp]
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05/11/17 02:14 PM
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[/quote] That's good to know - I've had a hard time reading how it would go in my 90s cars. I'm going to be in the west side of Eugene. I really like Deschutes beer, so Bend is on my short list for first trips post-move Really looking forward to being down in Oregon, there's so much new big $ up here you don't see hardly any old bangers out and about day to day compared to just 5 years ago. Everyone's clueless about getting their hands dirty... [/quote] Maybe you pal around with Mark Worman, he's always looking for friends..
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/11/17 04:09 PM
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As said above, most stations will let you pump your own if your not a moron and you have a "special" case vehicle.. I am sure you will find a station close to your home that will work with you..
A law was passed several years ago allowing motorcycles to pump their own, so that is a no brainer..
NO car cruises allowed in hippie Eugene.. Too much pollutin going on..
100,000 Californians in the Bend area now.. An overpacked zoo of people who think they are real "impotent"... Not like the neat town of 13,000 I used to ski out of in the 70's and 80's....
Enjoy
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/13/17 09:29 PM
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Most of the gas station attendants are pretty good at pumping gas. They are accommodating if you have a classic car, motorcycle, etc.
I love the full service in Oregon, especially when it is raining (which is 75% of the time out west!). The station I frequent in Astoria has mildly developmentally disabled workers...they take exceptional care and effort to not spill, overflow, or scratch your car. Up until one of your special attendant friends put a large chip in the paint of our '66 Coronet ragtop I was a little more lenient. They were even nice enough to deny it after it happened in front of me. No more people touching our stuff after that.
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/13/17 10:01 PM
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It would be hard to live with that silly rule. I usually just don't like being waited on or attended to and would rather take care of it myself.
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/13/17 11:50 PM
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It would be hard to live with that silly rule. I usually just don't like being waited on or attended to and would rather take care of it myself. Self-reliance is discouraged pretty much everywhere these days. Glad we don't have those goofy pump nozzles here yet. But I did go sideways on the local pump jockey who got to the filler cap on the Demon before I could get out of the car.... ....and immediately dropped it on the pavement.
....evil is winning....
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Re: Gangly vapor fillers, our cars, and Oregon
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05/14/17 08:49 PM
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I have a theory and maybe some old timers can confirm...
Wonder if pumps today have a higher flow rate than in the 60s?
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