Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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I'm about to start my engine for the first time. What type and weight motor oil is best to use once it is past the 20 minute break in? Here are my engine specs.
440ci Bored .40 over Closed chambered heads ported and polished 2.14/1.81 valves, hardened seats Harland Sharp roller rockers Comp Cam XE 274 cam and lifters LY rods Keith Black Hyperutectic pistons Forged crank Clevite bearings Factory mains ARP head, main and rod bolts Double roller timing chain Edelbrock RPM intake Holley Street Avenger 770 vacuum secondary TTi 1 7/8" headers 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust to stock tips Turbo mufflers H pipe mini starter
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Valvoline Racing Oil is what I have always used. Never lost a cam or lifters with it. Any time I used something different, I lost a cam and lifters on a new Comp Cam that WAS broken in correctly. Valvoline Racing Oil still has the max amount of the Zinc additive you can get without a custom blend. As long as you are not running Catalytic converters, you should not have any issues with it. http://www.valvoline.com/products/VR...otor%20Oil.pdfThe Valvoline VR-1 Racing Motor Oil • The #1 selling Racing Oil of all time and race track proven. • Protects against high-temperature deposits for a cleaner engine. • ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection. • Enhanced with fricition modifier to improve horsepower. • Formulated with enhanced anti-foam system. Approvals/Performance Levels Viscosity Grade/Other API SM/SL/SJ - - - - - - 20W-50 API SH 10W-30 20W-50 API CD 10W-30 20W-50 Test 10W-30 20W-50 Vis @ 100°C (cSt) 11.5 20.5 Vis @ 40°C (cSt) 77.0 181.8 Viscosity Index 143 132 Spec Gravity @ 60°F 0.8722 0.888 Density (lbs/gal) 7.27 7.39 Total Base No. 8 8 Flash COC (°C) 212 248 Pour Point (°C) -33 -24 CCS cP (°C) 6200(-25C) 8000(-15C) MRV TP-1 cP (°C) 20,000(-30C) 27,000(-20C) Noack % off @ 250C <15 <15 Sulfated Ash 1 1 Zinc/Phosphorus 0.130/0.120 0.130/0.120 Calcium 0.250 0.250
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Same here on Valvoline but there are a few other great oils out there........I know my tear-downs are an average of 6-7 years it seems and things look real good considering how much I drive my car especially testing several different carbs. Valvoline and Isky cams...........Innovators not copy cats.......
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Valvoline VR1 in the gray bottle is what I run. I do oil samples and it always runs around 1200PPM of Zinc. Brab Penn, Joe Gibbs and Amsoil make some good oils also that probably have a higher rating of zinc. Valvoline is easy to find here and $7 a QT.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Valvoline is good, but I like Brad Penn oils a little more. This old thread may interest you.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Valvoline VR1 race oil...found at any parts store.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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I'd leave the breakin oil in for 5000 miles...why waste it? It is what I do have done for 30 years.. Some folks waste so much oil it's You're kidding right............
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Excellent information, although wouldn't using the break in oil wear your motor down to nothing if you kept using it? Does the Valvoline VR-1 come in just one viscosity?
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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Excellent information, although wouldn't using the break in oil wear your motor down to nothing if you kept using it? Does the Valvoline VR-1 come in just one viscosity? No, it comes in several different viscosities. I'd use 10w30 or maybe 20w50 if the clearances are on the loose side.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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I'd leave the breakin oil in for 5000 miles...why waste it? It is what I do have done for 30 years.. Some folks waste so much oil it's For 30 years huh? What "break-in" oil were you using 30 years ago?
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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I'd break it in for longer than 20 minutes. I like to go through several heat cycles in my race engines before putting the "regular" oil in afterwards, which is Amsoil Dominator. Running softer valve springs for break in is good insurance, but a pain because then you have to change them out to what's recommended. Amsoil Tech Bulliten - High zinc oils.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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I'd leave the breakin oil in for 5000 miles...why waste it? It is what I do have done for 30 years.. Some folks waste so much oil it's For 30 years huh? What "break-in" oil were you using 30 years ago? Why would you run any oil for 5000 miles, especially on a new engine? Oil is cheap, engine parts are not.
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Re: Which Motor Oil Do I Use After Break In?
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On a flat tappet can you keep pouring in the additive on every oil change.. whats it gonna hurt if you wait on the first oil change.. I still have the break in additive in my engine but its only been 400 miles
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