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Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... #2244050
01/30/17 04:44 PM
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Throttle stop linkage came apart on New Years Day. I "fixed" the car in the garage while going over everything for this weekends race. I thought I had it fixed but I connected the linkage with a cam in the wrong position and while the secondaries were opening the primaries were closing. Not an easy fix on a hot car at the track. I got burned but I got it done and got one good time run Saturday then went 5 rounds for the Super Pro win at Sonoma.
Sunday I sat out the first two cold a$$ time runs. I cleaned up the car and went over everything. I made the last time run and got out past 60' and noticed the car hadn't made the shift so I reached over and shifted it. The pass seemed really good and fast and I was surprised with a -.002, 9.15 at 146 and change. It went 5.82 at 118 in the eighth. I went back and checked the shift routine and low and behold my shifter was missing the piece that the automatic plunger rams into to move it forward. No time to get it apart and fix it so I replayed the run on the Mega450 and I shifted at 7,200 rpm. A little bit more rpm than I really wanted to run so I set my shift light to 6,800 and put a 9.20 on the car for 1st rd. When I let go of the button I thought all day long that I was RED! The tree came down and lo and behold it was .003 green and the chase was on. Because of the thought process about being red, not to mention the force of habit, I forgot all about the shift light and short shifted at 6,400 according to the replay. My opponent was .005 and dead on 7! I got waxed! I probably could've got under him if I had shifted correctly but a 9.24 on the brakes wasn't close. Great weekend at Sonoma with perfect weather in the afternoon.
It's funny that I was having a good conversation that morning with another racer who was telling me all of his automatic shifter woes and why he disconnected his.
So! Do you think that if I removed the 240lbs. of ballast and replaced the throttle stop with a super sucker my car would go 8's??? shruggy

Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244078
01/30/17 05:17 PM
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The weight will help more than anything for sure. Don't get caught up in the 100lbs is a tenth BS cause it pretty much is just that BS. Especially as you start to go faster. I would expect 240lbs might net you .1 or so, unless the 60' picks up markedly. FWIW we ad 195lbs to the heads up car to run back east and slowed us MAYBE .02 and that was all down low. BTW I am sure the air was really good as well. It sure was in Vegas as the Dragster had a new best too by a boatload.

Apparently it likes a bit more RPM, could be a couple reasons why it does that. Could be happier at more RPM or could be fallback on shift is closer to where the engine wants to be allowing it to accelerate quicker. The stoo is costing some power too, we tested mine on the dyno and found it cost mine 10-15hp, the old butterfly was 40ish hp!! Spacer may help a tad as well, don't remember which intake you have. At any rate congrats on the new best and best of luck chasing those bracket points this year!!


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244099
01/30/17 05:59 PM
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The 60's were 1.300 to 1.307 in ten runs over two days. I've seen 1.22 there at Sonoma so I was actually pretty impressed with that 1/8th mile with a 60 that was 8 hun slower than my best. The air was a delicious -900!!! It definitely likes more rpm, I'm just not willing to beat on it. Still leaving at 4,000. The stop is a POS that needs to go. It's all out of the box 440-1 stuff single plane dominator. I have the suspension and shocks really good for the weight that's in it so I'm leaving it in for now as it's all in the trunk.
I signed up for Sacramento points but not Sonoma. There are two points races at Sac. on Feb. 12 as I am still in (3rd. rd.) for the New Years race that was not completed. So maybe I'll buy one of those HVH deals for then and see what happens. I kind of like being able to put the old slug Super Street program in if the track gets crappy or whatever. That won't be an option with no stop. I need to get a good stop for the car if I continue to do the Street or Gas thing...Thanks for the luck! I need all I can get!

Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244116
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Hey I love my disc stops, but they do require maintenance from time to time. Never used an electric one though smile We even got the old two ton Chevelle working great with one, even though it is kinda slow smile

Man work on the 60' and it should fly. I assume you have the smaller RB intake like we do on the dragster. We run the same OOTB head with a good valvejob too. I deal has a nice 2" shearplate/spacer on it and seems to work well. Engine will be coming out of it soon and a B1 taking its place. Be fun to slide the B1 in that car of yours and see what it will do smile


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244118
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My car is pretty bada$$. Anytime you want to do the swap! It'd take us about 15 minutes! smoke

Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244245
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So! Do you think that if I removed the 240lbs. of ballast and replaced the throttle stop with a super sucker my car would go 8's???


Only one way to find out grin drive


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2244259
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NICE............. thumbs


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2252973
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Got another Super Pro win yesterday at Sacramento. I also went red in the final of the New Years Day make up race. I ran 8 rounds in a little over 2-1/2 hours. 3 rds. were 1/8th mile. Running a short shift 9.30's program. Not as consistent as Sonoma but got it DONE! I'm freakin' BEAT!

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Congrats on the amazing start to the season!


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253010
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Congrats!


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253128
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Nice. I'm still looking at little piles of snow.
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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253140
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As always, we'd like to see some pics of your car and engine. grin


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253314
02/14/17 01:19 AM
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Thanks guys! Here's a couple pics.

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This is Sacramento Raceway sometime in 2015.

Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253328
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Damn dude! That's in da weeds!

Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253338
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It's actually almost as high as it can go. Was lower when new. I put the 22.5's on the front looking for some reaction improvement. It is low though. Pain getting it up high enough to remove the rear tires.

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Sacramento Raceway New Year's Day 2017.

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Cool little trophys I picked up yesterday.

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This is the 493 when it was new with the Edelbrocks. 2005

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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253357
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
Sacramento Raceway New Year's Day 2017.


Congrats and bad ass lookin car man............ beer


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Re: Win Saturday, new best on Sunday... [Re: Dave Hall] #2253358
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Thanks Dom! This is Al and I in the LVMS staging lanes, spring 2013, when he was winning EVERYTHING!

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