B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/22/17 11:21 AM
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If I recall correctly, there was someone who had worked out a serpentine belt conversion for a B/RB engine without spending stupid amount of money for an aftermarket kit.
The long unsupported run of the twin belts from the A/C compressor on the left to the alternator on the right has me thinking of going down this path. There are no matched pair belts to be found these days and I haven't had any luck finding two belts that will track the same.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/22/17 11:41 AM
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Jerry is the guy that has that stuff. There's another guy on the board who worked for a belt company that got me matched belts a couple times. I can't find his contact info at the moment...
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/22/17 02:38 PM
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SD Concepts. I have his system, have not run it yet, but really like the use of readily available service parts.
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/22/17 05:04 PM
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I have this setup on a few cars both serpentine and normal, was still not cheap but far more affordable then the several thousand dollar systems. http://www.cvfracing.com/
1996 Viper GTS - UGR Twin Turbo 1500RWHP, 9.02 @ 167 on pump gas and DOT tire 1973 Challenger - 572 Indy Hemi 860HP 1975 Trailduster Convertible, 440 1967 Plymouth Fury Police Pursuit 2DR 505 Stroker 2004 Neon SRT4 modded www.milwaukeemopar.com
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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I have the serpentine setup and their PS pump on a truck - all their stuff I have bought looks and fits perfect.
1996 Viper GTS - UGR Twin Turbo 1500RWHP, 9.02 @ 167 on pump gas and DOT tire 1973 Challenger - 572 Indy Hemi 860HP 1975 Trailduster Convertible, 440 1967 Plymouth Fury Police Pursuit 2DR 505 Stroker 2004 Neon SRT4 modded www.milwaukeemopar.com
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/23/17 02:07 PM
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Will a Sanden 508 move the same volume as the old RV2? Keep in mind that I have twin evaporators and run 72 ounces of R12 in the system.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/23/17 03:09 PM
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This is a BIG black car in Texas.
The RV2 pump keeps it cool. I'm concerned about the little 508 being big enough to do the job.
Are your pulleys set to overdrive, underdrive, or 1:1 the compressor?
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/23/17 06:05 PM
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The compressor only runs about 25% maybe 30% of the time in a Dakota. It may just end up running a higher duty cycle. On a daily driver this may mean wearing our more quickly, so instead of lasting over 100k miles it may only last 50k. How long will it take you to rack up 50k miles?
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/23/17 06:34 PM
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And if all else fails... http://www.sanden.com/contact.htmlU.S. Headquarters Sanden International (USA), Inc. 601 S. Sanden Blvd. Wylie, TX 75098 They should know Texas heat at least. Wylie is only 15 miles from work but it might as well be on another planet when you consider that I live 23 miles the other way and I'm not going to fight that traffic. I tried looking at their site but didn't get much info.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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The compressor only runs about 25% maybe 30% of the time in a Dakota. It may just end up running a higher duty cycle. On a daily driver this may mean wearing our more quickly, so instead of lasting over 100k miles it may only last 50k. How long will it take you to rack up 50k miles? Believe it or not, the compressor runs all the time on these systems. http://imperialclub.com/Repair/Lit/Master/295/page07.htmI do have the Unwired Tools A/C servo replacement for Mercedes cars. My car has the AutoTemp II system that Chrysler sold to Mercedes in 1975. I'm not sure if it'll stop the full time compressor or not.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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I have a Sanden on my 68 BLACK Charger with the original evap, I am in Katy Texas & when it is 106 outside it will still freeze you out, I put an adjustable thermostatic cycling switch on it so it wont freeze up the evap. I have done 2 Chargers this way. I also did intall a r134 condenser on them.
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Re: B/RB serpentine belt conversion
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01/23/17 10:42 PM
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Feets if you do want the larger compressor, I can mod our bracket for your application
Last edited by Jerry; 01/23/17 10:42 PM.
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