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69 Dart - Which brake conversion kit? #2232213
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I am planning on updating my drum brakes to disk, which kit is the best? i want a stock style replacement. I would like to keep my 5x4 bolt pattern but that seems unlikely since they all seem to be based on the '73 and up disk brakes. Opinions please.

Re: 69 Dart - Which brake conversion kit? [Re: dd340] #2232225
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If you want to keep the stock bolt pattern, you should look for the factory KH brake setup.(Kelsey Hayes) The system is not cheap though. The calipers will likely be seized and need to be rebuilt.


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Originally Posted By burdar
If you want to keep the stock bolt pattern, you should look for the factory KH brake setup.(Kelsey Hayes) The system is not cheap though. The calipers will likely be seized and need to be rebuilt.



i have come to the conclusion that it might be better to go with the newer set up and just lose the 5x4 set up.

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as you know that (BBP) will mean a wheel change or SBP/BBP adapters (not the ideal choice). there might be enough meat in the BBP rotors to redrill for SBP & use lug centric lug nuts cuz the BBP center hole "register" is larger to center the wheels. if so I can give you the pattern to redrill to elim the machine shop time/bill. You might give Doc a call.


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The earlier SB KH set up will work fine and maintain the bolt pattern not requiring a rear pattern or wheel change. Calipers can be purchased as well as the valve and lines, the spindles and hubs are not available to my knowledge and must be sourced from originals. Generally a complete set up can be bought anywhere from $250 up with rebuilt systems going for $500 plus pretty easy. If you go later BB pattern then you need the spindle out and the upper control arm from the donor car cause it takes a larger ball joint. You can still pick these up in boneyards depending on your area so not overly expensive and most every wearable part is available for purchase from the parts house. I have seen them go for anywhere from $50-250 depending on how complete and condition.


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Originally Posted By mopar346
The earlier SB KH set up will work fine and maintain the bolt pattern not requiring a rear pattern or wheel change. Calipers can be purchased as well as the valve and lines, the spindles and hubs are not available to my knowledge and must be sourced from originals. Generally a complete set up can be bought anywhere from $250 up with rebuilt systems going for $500 plus pretty easy. If you go later BB pattern then you need the spindle out and the upper control arm from the donor car cause it takes a larger ball joint. You can still pick these up in boneyards depending on your area so not overly expensive and most every wearable part is available for purchase from the parts house. I have seen them go for anywhere from $50-250 depending on how complete and condition.



i did price out that option with Rockauto because i already have the correct spindle from a disk brake car but once i total everything up it was pretty much the same price as i was seeing for the conversion kits. I was planning to upgrade to 15" wheels as a minimum anyway so other than the problem with a spare tire for the back, the cost is pretty much a wash.

Re: 69 Dart - Which brake conversion kit? [Re: dd340] #2232323
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Early Mustangs rotors can be machined to fit the mopar a body spindles and this will get you the larger bolt pattern if that is what your after. You can keep all the other small bolt pattern parts (spindles, calipers, upper control arms, etc.).

For A Bodies only has a multi-page thread on it.

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The 73 and up factory disc brakes also widen the track width of the car a little under 1" per side. Depending upon wheel backspacing and tire size this can mean the front tires will catch the fender lip.

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I guess at this point i am just wondering if anyone has used one of the conversion kits and whether or not they liked it.

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SSBC makes a conversion kit for the drum brake cars that doesn't change control arms or spindles, but they're spendy. Probably what I am going to do on my 72 because I just don't like how the cars look with the front tires pushed out that little bit more, and I want to keep a decent dish offset wheel.







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