Thought some of you might like to see this here, even though it's Brand X content. This is from Don Fezell's Lifelong Parts Collection auction, a full 1963 Z-11 lightweight body panel package. Really cool to see it all in one lot. Nothing 'real world' about it, that's for sure.

Z-11 lightweight body panels

Bunch of '63 Mopar lightweight parts listed too.

'63 Dodge lightweight parts

'63 Plymouth aluminum fender

Quite the collection. Guy has all sorts of stuff - Max Wedge, Hemi, Poncho Super Duty, Cobra Jet..

Yeah, I saw that auction. Stuff that made me think twice about leaning over to the dark side with Z11 cars. LOL.
Even Thunderbolt parts.
I believe one has to be there in person to bid on the lots.

FMJ, do you ever sleep? It seems every time I am on here so are you.

i have known fazelle for 40 years or so, and his collection was impressive to say the least. a really nice guy who was genuinely in love with these four wheeled wonders with history. i last talked to him in late october when the cars and parts were being loaded up. at that time, he still has 4 or 5 cars being restored. at his age [i think he is 78 or 79] he said it is time to let go. his kids aren't interested, and his wife is afraid something might happen to him, leaving her to take care of these treasures. i have two friends that will be attending the auction. it will be interesting to see what that collection of cars and parts will bring.

Sleep? What does that word mean in the "City that never zzzzzzzzzz"?
Since I crashed landed here one thousand eighty years ago, I figured I can get a lot done while humans indulge in that past time called sleep. LOL

Yeah! I don't sleep, but my cars tend to be sleepers. LOL

Man, what a cache of golden triangle parts. Glad he's liquidating during a smart time and not when he's gone to the other side.
Cool to have chatted tonight at the grotto RMCHGR. Hope the blind fold wasn't too tight. LOL

You guys just getting home,,,,I'm headed to the plow truck waiting on a date.

Likewise! Was an honor to be among the heavyweight cats of the lightweight world.

Blindfold was a bit much though, don't you think? I mean on top of all the notarized release forms, finger prints, pint of blood, eye scan, DNA samples and the tracking device permanently implanted in the back of my neck...

Some serious bidness.

Guess I'll have to settle for talking to Lee at Carlisle...No way I pass that security check...

Lol me either and I have a government job.

LOL.

Don't forget RMCHGR that you also had to verify that you were pure bred Mopar by the registration in your wallet indicating you own a Mopar.
No brand X spies.
Usually anyone that comes in has to have either one of the following numbers in their Social security card. 273-340-360-383-400-413-426-440-426H or they are not permitted. LOL

Wilwood disc brake weight info for Mopar 10" drum spindles.
Years ago I bought a Wilwood disc brake kit from a friend that had never been used. The kit is 140-2711B and mounts on the Mopar B Body 10" drum spindles. The weight of the kit was 33lbs and for me saved over 20 lbs, a lot of it rotating on the front end of the car.
If I would have ordered the kit I could have gotten 140-2711BD with drilled rotors and had a kit weight of 32 lbs. I could have also specified the Billet Dynalite calipers and got it down to 31 1/2 lbs. So recently I have been trying to buy replacement pads and possibly drilled rotors. The drilled rotors are still available and will save me a pound while I'm swapping them out any way! But the pads are discontinued and the new ones are heavier by about a half pound! I was able to buy a set of old stock ones.
The billet calipers are also discontinued and replaced by forged calipers! This adds another 1 1/2 pounds to the kit.
So the bottom line is that if you order the standard 140-2711B kit today it now weighs 35 lbs! I verified this Wilwood this week!
Wilwood is selling the heavier calipers by stating that they are stronger than the old style. Just info sharing.
MJ

As tedious as some of the reduction is, it does open our eyes to other stuff we may see along the way like jacked wiring, that 1/2" wrench you swore your drunk friend took and whatever else pops up PLUS gettin lighter as we go. I'm going to the boneyard soon to grab a plastic belly pan off of anything I can trim to fit under the ft.for more aero..........lighter through the air........... Speaking of aero, I have a cloth covered piece of foam behind my fuel cell in the trunk to cover the hole for the sump and noticed lately after my 120 mph plus street runs, it was no longer in place. I figured it was g forces from launching but found out it's trapped air getting into the trunk so I'm going to drill pressure relief holes in the rear valance till it stays in place above 130 mph...........so light is might but aero make yer car go.............

Speaking on Aero-nomics, I've installed aluminum sheet air dams underneath at the rear chassis cross member and attaching onto the rear bumpers lower lip to reflect air trapping at speed under the bumpers shovel like shape in the open air. Painted flat black it can't be seen unless you are looking hard.

ThumperD, You are right, light is might in the short term light to LIGHT, but Aero effectively cuts through the air straight and narrow like a sparrow.

MJ.

This may be true as far as weight with the new hyper lightweight components being introduced.
For years people were swearing by factory disc over factory drums in the weight advantage department and stopping power, but it was proven time in and again that the factory drums were both lighter and less dragging, but not as good in stopping.
FWIW, A good factory drum set up stops very well, but fades if you are not careful and mindful of how to apply them.
Now with these all new ultra lightweight disc setups, you can find both lightweight and less drag effective systems.
But one thing to keep in mind, is that these kits may not be for the heavy at heart. In other words, they may not work effectively on a heavy car being that they have limits by the weight of the cars that they are trying to stop.
My friends full interior steel Charger with Wilwoods saved a bunch of weight over the factory discs, but also ate through those rotors in no time being that it was a real street car and weighed over 3700 Lbs. On a very light car they may be a no-issue though.

Funny, with all the legendary folklore surrounding 64'-65' Factory experimental parts being expressed by the water cooler for years now, it has just dawned on me, I've never seen an actual Magnesium K-member in photo, authorized print, swaps meets or part of any personal collections.
What insights this is the recent Don Fezell's ultra rare collection up for grabs. If anyone would have had a Mag-K, it would have been this gentleman.

Even Big foot has more supposed sitings then this mythical Magnesium Ninja.

Contrary to all of this, I've heard from some Chrysler sources of special metal part stampings after midnight at the foundries.

Maybe self interest mojo? or hidden undocumented truth?

fullmetaljacket,
Here is my progression on the brakes for the Bitter Lime:
1998 Went from factory 11" drums to factory 10" drums -40 LBS!
2002 Went from factory 10" drums to Wilwood discs up front
-20 LBS! These are the pads and rotors being replaced!
2008 Went from factory 10" drums to Wilwood discs out back.
This was done during the 8 3/4 to Dana swap -7LBS!!
I would like to note that during the 10" drum days I took several sets of drums and cut the outside dust collar off!
I have my own brake lathe and just kept cutting the outside till it was smooth and flat all the way across! This would probably not be a good idea on a street driven car but shaved a bunch of rotating weight off!!
MJ

I get you. That's a good synopsis over the years that give some cats on here a clear idea of what to expect on any given combo change. I just simply stood to my stock 10" drums all around.
I did do something that I might have mentioned here a long time back. I used the smooth face Wagner drums instead of the cooling fin types that are more common and thus, heavier.

I do have a super trick using GM aluminum drums when building a rear end housing from scratch.
Simply have the axle mounting flanges on the rear axle ends be machined for GM axles and backing plates. Install a GM backing plate, GM pattern axle with the appropriate bearings, brake hardware and shoes, and lo and behold, use the lightweight aluminum drums to cap it off. They cool off a little better also.