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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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I wonder why they didnt go ahead and drill the cross bolts on #5 specially since its prepped for it.. but at least there is a STRONG block for the BB guys... my mega block with 4.5 bores only had .200 walls at the thinnest point.. whats the next ring size over a 4.5.. does chevy have a 4.6 ring  4.600 and 4.625 are common sizes for BBC 565 cu in strokers in 9.8 deck Dart Big M blocks....lots of rings available....I'm learning it all for S/C and S/P racing....it's like learnig to speak all over again. Also in the 10.2 deck heights. Yup....but I'm finding "most" S/C dragsters are running 9.8 565-585" motors..they all say the short deck blocks work better with T stops..who knows...just following the herd...LOL
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/24/16 09:52 PM
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Looks like a cool piece but for the money I think I'll be buying a Kieth Black aluminum block from FHO when he gets up and running with them. For a street car the light weight and repairability makes the most sense to me.  I just bought an Indy aluminum block. Close to the same money, but 200 pounds lighter!!!No brainer....
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 02:31 AM
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Looks like a cool piece but for the money I think I'll be buying a Kieth Black aluminum block from FHO when he gets up and running with them. For a street car the light weight and repairability makes the most sense to me. I just bought an Indy aluminum block. Close to the same money, but 200 pounds lighter!!!No brainer.... Did you get the Hemi or Wedge?
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 03:01 AM
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That iron Block may have more HP capacity than aluminum.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 01:38 PM
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Looks like a cool piece but for the money I think I'll be buying a Kieth Black aluminum block from FHO when he gets up and running with them. For a street car the light weight and repairability makes the most sense to me. I just bought an Indy aluminum block. Close to the same money, but 200 pounds lighter!!!No brainer.... Did you get the Hemi or Wedge? I bought the RB wedge block. I had Todd Marsh build a 588 with it. It made 961 horsepower and 850 torque. I don't know how much more it would have made with an iron block  
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 04:05 PM
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... I just bought an Indy aluminum block. Close to the same money, but 200 pounds lighter!!!No brainer.... What sort of additional work was required w/ the Indy block to make it "ready to assemble", and would you be willing to give an approximate cost of what the block plus any necessary finishing work totaled?
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 05:28 PM
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200 pounds lighter? Really? Was it filled with helium?  I was at a shop when they weighed a 4.5 bore iron mopar megablock. 230 pounds. How much is the new muscle motors iron block supposed to weigh? How much does in Indy aluminum block away?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 07:13 PM
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Wonder if this will have any impact on the price of OEM blocks. Some of the guys in my area think a 74' 440 is made out of 24k gold. Doubtful, considering it is missing the tell-tale flat ID pad on the front of the block casting. No resto guy will want a Hemi that looks like a 383 block with auxiliary oil pump block off plugs.
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 07:52 PM
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Wonder if this will have any impact on the price of OEM blocks. Some of the guys in my area think a 74' 440 is made out of 24k gold. Doubtful, considering it is missing the tell-tale flat ID pad on the front of the block casting. No resto guy will want a Hemi that looks like a 383 block with auxiliary oil pump block off plugs. Who cares about them. The "resto" guys have ruined this hobby.
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 08:17 PM
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200 pounds lighter? Really? Was it filled with helium? I was at a shop when they weighed a 4.5 bore iron mopar megablock. 230 pounds. How much is the new muscle motors iron block supposed to weigh? How much does in Indy aluminum block away? Really! My 4.530 mega block weighs 330 pounds. The indy block weighs 130 pounds. a stock block weighs 230 pounds. Sooo my Indy block is 200 pounds lighter than a mega block. And probably about the same for this new muscle motors block....
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 08:23 PM
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... I just bought an Indy aluminum block. Close to the same money, but 200 pounds lighter!!!No brainer.... What sort of additional work was required w/ the Indy block to make it "ready to assemble", and would you be willing to give an approximate cost of what the block plus any necessary finishing work totaled? Hey Brad. the block was $4835. cnc clearance for the large stroke was $250. large bore sleeves were $100. total was about $5185.00. boring honing ect...would be the same as any block.
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 08:59 PM
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200 pounds lighter? Really? Was it filled with helium? I was at a shop when they weighed a 4.5 bore iron mopar megablock. 230 pounds. How much is the new muscle motors iron block supposed to weigh? How much does in Indy aluminum block away? Really! My 4.530 mega block weighs 330 pounds. The indy block weighs 130 pounds. a stock block weighs 230 pounds. Sooo my Indy block is 200 pounds lighter than a mega block. And probably about the same for this new muscle motors block.... Wow, what version of megablock is it? This 230 pounder was an early mopar mega block that was furnished with a 4.19 ruff bore, then finish bored to 4.5. I have a mega in storage that I'm going to dig out and weigh.
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 09:07 PM
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200 pounds lighter? Really? Was it filled with helium? I was at a shop when they weighed a 4.5 bore iron mopar megablock. 230 pounds. How much is the new muscle motors iron block supposed to weigh? How much does in Indy aluminum block away? Really! My 4.530 mega block weighs 330 pounds. The indy block weighs 130 pounds. a stock block weighs 230 pounds. Sooo my Indy block is 200 pounds lighter than a mega block. And probably about the same for this new muscle motors block.... I weighed my Mopar Mega-Block last year as I was contemplating an aluminum block. It weighed 270 lbs. 4.500 bore, motor mounts trimmed. Indy states 133lbs for 137 lb weight saving. Doug
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 09:17 PM
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200 pounds lighter? Really? Was it filled with helium? I was at a shop when they weighed a 4.5 bore iron mopar megablock. 230 pounds. How much is the new muscle motors iron block supposed to weigh? How much does in Indy aluminum block away? Really! My 4.530 mega block weighs 330 pounds. The indy block weighs 130 pounds. a stock block weighs 230 pounds. Sooo my Indy block is 200 pounds lighter than a mega block. And probably about the same for this new muscle motors block.... Wow, what version of megablock is it? This 230 pounder was an early mopar mega block that was furnished with a 4.19 ruff bore, then finish bored to 4.5. I have a mega in storage that I'm going to dig out and weigh. My mega block is an earlier one, maybe around 96_98 or so. It has the engine mounts on it still. And had no lightning done to it at all. It is a heavy biatch
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 09:45 PM
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Looks like a great start to me. We need more options. As much as Id like to take weight off the car. This block looks like it will hold a butt load of boost. I wanna find out!
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Re: Article on Muscle Motors new block
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12/26/16 10:25 PM
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Wonder if this will have any impact on the price of OEM blocks. Some of the guys in my area think a 74' 440 is made out of 24k gold. Doubtful, considering it is missing the tell-tale flat ID pad on the front of the block casting. No resto guy will want a Hemi that looks like a 383 block with auxiliary oil pump block off plugs. Who cares about them. The "resto" guys have ruined this hobby. I blame the companies who are remaking parts. Rather than make $10 off 100 people, they want $100 off 10 people. But that's business, if it bothered me enough I'd be making OE dashboards and grills in my basement.
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