Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Bit of time lapse there............Goad wanting to pull his hair out (shaved head) when plugs went down the motor then they flash to interview about it and he has 1/2" long hair. Sorry to see for sure, stuff happens and that TV editing in action for sure. Those "interviews" are always done after the fact. Weeks or sometimes months after the footage is shot. When they do those, they roll the film for a refresher and then the comments are made. They usually do several interviews in one sitting
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/20/16 11:26 AM
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Reaper can't catch a break. Really would like to see some clean trouble free passes from him. As for this....
Don't know you and never heard of you. PLEASE honor us with some pictures of your race car so that we may know who we are talking to. Do you buy your power or do you help produce all that horsepower. The screen name doesn't ring a bell.
That Avenger is 1 bad Mo. Know of him or not, He is one of the most talented people on this board. Paying attention to his posts may be a good idea.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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12/20/16 12:59 PM
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ALL these guys work hard to do this deal. The filming schedule is crazy. It's hard to keep cars like this ready to race on a weekly basis and work a job to. They are making some money from it now, but for years they were going broke trying to keep up every week. They are down right now, but it's only for a few weeks and are all scrambling to make changes. We are making suspension and gearing changes on Docs car and I have the intakes from Monza and the Reaper here to make a few changes. It's always something
Shawn is humping to have the NEW Murder Nova ready and Chief has bought another car as well, since they made the no "pro-mods" move Hey Monte, how about a little more info on the "no pro mods move"? That is the first I have heard about that and like the idea a lot. And Monte, thanks for hanging in there and trying to keep the record straight. I don't know why people can't just watch and enjoy a really cool car show without constantly trying to tear it down. The haters could just change the channel. But it seems much more important to them to try to ruin it for anyone else who might enjoy watching it.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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Hey Monte, how about a little more info on the "no pro mods move"? That is the first I have heard about that and like the idea a lot. It was touched on in an episode or the podcast, I don't remember. I think it went like this: The guy who started the original Cash Days (Limpy, out of Texas maybe) said no more pro mods in his events. That's why Chief and the CroMod couldn't compete in the last one. Once the show had ran its course, Cash Days are these guys big events and they all want to compete in them, so Chief is building another steel body back half. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure...lol. Dennis
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure?
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure? BINGO!!!!!!!!! And I can't believe Monte says he does this too. As soon as my hood comes off the race car a clean rags goes over the carb to prevent things like this from happening. And unless I'm working on the carb the rag stays there till the job is finished. Why would ANYONE purposely put something in or on a carb or throttle body BEGGING for something bad to happen.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure? BINGO!!!!!!!!! And I can't believe Monte says he does this too. As soon as my hood comes off the race car a clean rags goes over the carb to prevent things like this from happening. And unless I'm working on the carb the rag stays there till the job is finished. Why would ANYONE purposely put something in or on a carb or throttle body BEGGING for something bad to happen. Because it was the "cool" thing to do since the pro stockers did it. Copy cats
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: FastmOp]
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12/20/16 03:36 PM
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If it bites me I'll rebuild it. I have had it sideways in the lights. It's a possibility every time I launch it. You laughing at a racer for hurting his junk is why I called you out. It's indy heads with a turbo. Fast as hell for a bracket motor. It's my combo, I didn't copy anyone. Look through my pics on photo bucket, you will see nobody but me built it. What I started with Put up the Photobucket link I'd like to see the pics.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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12/20/16 03:42 PM
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ALL these guys work hard to do this deal. The filming schedule is crazy. It's hard to keep cars like this ready to race on a weekly basis and work a job to. They are making some money from it now, but for years they were going broke trying to keep up every week. They are down right now, but it's only for a few weeks and are all scrambling to make changes. We are making suspension and gearing changes on Docs car and I have the intakes from Monza and the Reaper here to make a few changes. It's always something
Shawn is humping to have the NEW Murder Nova ready and Chief has bought another car as well, since they made the no "pro-mods" move Hey Monte, how about a little more info on the "no pro mods move"? That is the first I have heard about that and like the idea a lot. And Monte, thanks for hanging in there and trying to keep the record straight. I don't know why people can't just watch and enjoy a really cool car show without constantly trying to tear it down. The haters could just change the channel. But it seems much more important to them to try to ruin it for anyone else who might enjoy watching it. They have split off the promods at the no prep races in to there own class. So you have big tire as one class and promod as another class.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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12/20/16 03:53 PM
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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IIRC, Monte said that all of the top cars, except the current(?) Murder Nova, are full chassis cars w/ comparable componentry. Unless I misunderstood his explanation, there are more "Pro Mods" than just Chief's and Lutz's, but they simply don't look like it on the outside. I believe he mentioned Doc's & Monza's cars specifically in this regard, despite how those two keep talking up how they're racing against Pro Mods. If it's a stock wheel base car and has a vin from a manufacturer they call that top sportsman car. I believe they consider altered wheel base and stretched noses and full carbon or fiberglass body would be a pro mod. That's what I gather from reading some of the class rules at the no prep races.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/20/16 04:29 PM
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Doc's, Monza's, Daddy Daves, and Murder Nova all started out as a production car. The chassis' are more or less the same from the firewall back. DD's and MN's cars have "stock" type front ends on them. Daves car uses a bolt in front, and the new Murder Nova has just enough of the front frame rail to hang stock type suspension parts on it. These cars also have stock outer demensions, but make no mistake about it, they are basically the same as Chief's and Lutz's ProMods.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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You can't really "define" what a Pro Mod is or isn't, just that you know one when you see it. Take the body off most of the cars out there, park the chassis side by side and there is zero difference. A 6.0 cert chassis is a 6.0 cert chassis. The problem is the body and the LOOK. The squashed body and long nose screams Pro Mod. Doc, Jerry and Reaper are as Pro Mod as it gets really, but with stock looking steel bodies and wheelbase. There was a thought about requiring a VIN number, but that would rule out some cars they don't want ruled out.
Kye Kelley looks stock, but is a glass body. Lutz 57 has a glass body. Chucks 55 has a glass body. John Doe is steel, but is an ex Pro Stock car, so it's a panel car with no VIN. These are not cars you want ruled out, so what do you do. You fall back on the "know one when I see it rule" and is what lots of no prep races are now doing
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure? You look at the plugs every pass on a nitrous car. We and most others have always just stuck the plugs in the carb boosters. It keeps them in order and where they can be seen. You look at the plugs with your light or scope and then put them back in the motor. Just the way most choose to do it. So when we switched to EFI our process didn't change. On our throttle bodies, they are shorter and the threads of the plugs stick out the top and are easily seen. Guess James' throttle bodies are deeper and they were overlooked. Because YOU wouldn't do it doesn't matter. You likely do things I would never do, so none of that matters. A mistake was made, it cost him and is likely a mistake he will never make again
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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I'm an ex tool maker. I can read a mic or run a CNC one runs 4's, other runs 5's
What do you do now? Sent u a PM. I own a storage business to pay for car stuff. Not as good $$ as tool and die work, but my work schedule is a lot better.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Old Monza has been showing up loaded for bear lately. I enjoy seeing him do well.
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