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Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: ntstlgl1970] #1638611
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Makes these look the bargin then!

Just get some hubs in 5 on 4 3/4 bolt pattern, redrill your rear axles, and get going!

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #1638612
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Makes these look the bargin then!

Just get some hubs in 5 on 4 3/4 bolt pattern, redrill your rear axles, and get going!




Or you could replace the rotor hat with a Mustang one...

http://www.wilwood.com/Hats/HatProd.aspx?itemno=170-12624

Rotor...
http://www.wilwood.com/Rotors/RotorProd.aspx?itemno=160-12442
http://www.wilwood.com/Rotors/RotorProd.aspx?itemno=160-12442

Ironically I priced it out. Buying the hats, rotors, and calipers separately cost more than the entire Mustang kit.

http://www.wilwood.com/brakekits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-12756-CSIC

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1638613
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Those are only teeny little 14" rotors though it looks like?

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #1638614
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Those are only teeny little 14" rotors though it looks like?




They are, but they have the hats for Chevy bolt pattern...

http://www.wilwood.com/brakekits/BrakeKi...t%20Brake%20Kit

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1638615
02/08/15 12:39 AM
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Hat height needs to be taller...custom by coleman?


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Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: astjp2] #1638616
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Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: 72Swinger] #1638617
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Wilwood has a bunch of different hats.
http://www.wilwood.com/Hats/HatList.aspx
http://www.wilwood.com/Images/HATS/Hat_Photos-Large/Big_Brake_Flared_Bell-lg.jpg




Yes they do. I bet one would offset it properly with Dr Diff's hubs.

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: ntstlgl1970] #1638618
02/08/15 03:24 PM
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I would have guessed 2500 per rotor, but at 1500 per, that is a lot cheaper than other offerings at SEMA that were in the 9-11k price range.

of course the term "cheaper" doesn't really apply here.

cool stuff!






Funny to think of close to $6k for 4 rotors as "cheaper" but know what you mean.

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #1638619
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Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #1638620
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Those rotors aren't any good, they're drilled. I heard on here that drilled rotors are no good because they crack between holes.

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: go-fish] #1638621
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Those rotors aren't any good, they're drilled. I heard on here that drilled rotors are no good because they crack between holes.




Only when the car is on a treadmill.

It happens only because you can't stack that many pancakes on a doghouse. The ice cream keeps melting.


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Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: feets] #1638622
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Those rotors aren't any good, they're drilled. I heard on here that drilled rotors are no good because they crack between holes.




Only when the car is on a treadmill.

It happens only because you can't stack that many pancakes on a doghouse. The ice cream keeps melting.






Ice cream has no bones.

Kevin

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: Twostick] #1638623
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Ice cream has no bones.

Kevin





Are you sure?

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #1638624
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Ice cream has no bones.

Kevin





Are you sure?



and i thought i heard of everything by now........

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: moparx] #1638625
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Google images, can be a scary place..

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: OzHemi] #2215164
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There are three reasons for reducing weight of brake assemblies:

1. Overall vehicle weight.

2. Rotational acceleration energy use.

3. Reduced unsprung weight.

The first two make the vehicle easier to accelerate, the third lets the tires follow the road more easily.

Back in the day, many drag racers ran drum brakes because they were lighter and could be adjusted to have less drag.

R.

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: AndyF] #2217117
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Originally Posted By AndyF
If you look in the archives you'll see a couple of magazine articles that I wrote on Tim's Valiant. We put a 13 inch Baer 6P kit on his Valiant and it works fine. Tim's car is road raced and has 150+ mph capability so it is very fast for a vintage Mopar. We could've gone 14 inch or 15 inch on the rotor size but there wasn't any reason to do so. The 13 inch rotors do the job from 150 so why go bigger. A 14 inch rotor does give you a little more leverage and a little more surface area and perhaps some additional head sink. I doubt that very many guys on here have a car that is fast enough to require a 14 inch rotor but nothing wrong with putting them on a car if you have the cash and don't mind spending it.


I'm probably the only one on this board who has not only had both the 13 and 14" systems, but has had them on the track as well. My Dart is probably 600lbs heavier than Tim's Valiant which plays a huge roll in brake performance.
Another thing to consider is feel and balance. This is almost more important than the brakes themselves. Most on the board don't understand this factor.

Even though the 13" system was adequate, the 14" is far superior in braking and confidence. I had the complete system working for years and changed to the 14s by themselves. I also run an expensive set of Carbotech pads.

Bottom line, if you can afford it, brakes are worth it!

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #2217338
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Peter,
What brakes and spindles (make,year, drum/disk) are you running now? I know you've got your car sorted out well!

Thanks, Wes

Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: dogdays] #2217373
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Originally Posted By dogdays
There are three reasons for reducing weight of brake assemblies:

1. Overall vehicle weight.

2. Rotational acceleration energy use.

3. Reduced unsprung weight.

The first two make the vehicle easier to accelerate,


And slow down.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Anyone running 14" brakes rotors? [Re: MoparCar] #2217740
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Originally Posted By MoparCar
Peter,
What brakes and spindles (make,year, drum/disk) are you running now? I know you've got your car sorted out well!

Thanks, Wes


73 UP A Body disc spindles. Gen 3 Viper Caliper, Carbotech XP20 pad, OE Srt slotted rotor.

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