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Re: New R blocks [Re: slantzilla] #2215261
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
How did Ritter get a block approved for Stock???????????




I knew stock was never stock but cheese and rice guy's if they now allow after market blocks it's really messed up.


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Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215265
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Ritters block can be made to any lifter angel is what I was told by ritter when I was looking for a block before I found a R 3 block

Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215285
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E-mail Kent Ritter directly for more details or to place an order. kent.e.ritter@arvos-group.com

Cell: 585-610-9979

The block is not assembly ready.
It will require blueprinting operations such as boring, honing, decking, line-honing etc...
Many custom operations are available and may be required for each customers application, all of which we can perform here in our shop.

These Ritter blocks can be somewhat custom ordered. Some of the options include;

Block Height
Rough Bore
Main bore size
cam bearing type
Lifter angles
Roller cam bearings
LA style rocker arm oiling
Standard OEM cam bearings
9.00" or 9.600" block height
48º or 59º lifter angles
Let Kent know what you need.


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Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215286
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Did you order one

Re: New R blocks [Re: pittsburghracer] #2215344
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By slantzilla
How did Ritter get a block approved for Stock???????????




I knew stock was never stock but cheese and rice guy's if they now allow after market blocks it's really messed up.
Why? You put the correct heads, on the correct deck, with the correct lifter angle and it's cast.....what does it matter. Does that mean you think all the HEMI guys or whoever should have to use stock blocks that are virtually impossible to find

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heck Hemi guys can't be too smart.... they forgot where the intake port ends and the valve cover begins!

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Stock should mean factory stock especially with the block but what do I know. B1 heads should be legal to then. Lol. Maybe I should build a Ritter aluminum small block with ported W9 heads and run stock class. Maybe I could hide a small nos kit too or is that legal?


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Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215354
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We are talking about a BLOCK. Please explain the huge advantage that gives

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you're welcome to try.... but they do that lil thing called tear down.

Re: New R blocks [Re: Monte_Smith] #2215392
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
We are talking about a BLOCK. Please explain the huge advantage that gives


My question was simply wondering how a completely aftermarket block got accepted into Stock when it has always been that you had to use production pieces with numbers that matched the model year of your car.

I know they have loosened up a lot of rules.


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Re: New R blocks [Re: slantzilla] #2215420
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If Kent ritter was on fire.I would not waste my piss in him...I have had 2 blocks..both were junk... apparently the new blocks are better... but he has ruined his name and credibility.... he sold blocks knowing they were no good and couldn't be fixed... I know block number 003 was sold to two different people. Knowing it was junk.. there's people that will not even post on this site anymore over this block....


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http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/nhra-approved.shtml

Larry Gilley runs Ebrocks on his "stock eliminator" small block Dart.

Re: New R blocks [Re: slantzilla] #2215429
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
We are talking about a BLOCK. Please explain the huge advantage that gives


My question was simply wondering how a completely aftermarket block got accepted into Stock when it has always been that you had to use production pieces with numbers that matched the model year of your car.

I know they have loosened up a lot of rules.


Get NHRA to approve it, there is a process and hurdles to jump.
http://www.nhra.com/userfiles/file/NHRA%20Component%20Acceptance%20Process.pdf

Like Monte said no advantage.

Re: New R blocks [Re: J_BODY] #2215432
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/nhra-approved.shtml

Larry Gilley runs Ebrocks on his "stock eliminator" small block Dart.


Take a ton of money to make work and a HP hit , I can have a set of cast heads done cheaper.

Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215433
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I think if the R block is able to be reproduced it will out sell the ritter block for sure

Re: New R blocks [Re: slantzilla] #2215459
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
We are talking about a BLOCK. Please explain the huge advantage that gives


My question was simply wondering how a completely aftermarket block got accepted into Stock when it has always been that you had to use production pieces with numbers that matched the model year of your car.

I know they have loosened up a lot of rules.
Hasn't been that way in years

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It will never fly, I just listed a new short block again, and every time I list a bare block I get pelted with crap offers.

So this will be my third race block install into a 550hp street motor if this dont sell in the last 3 years, silly I know but I dont have many oem blocks.

So really thats why I posted that if the guy does get it together Id get every single deposit prior to the first pouring.

How many here really need a race based block, how many split blocks do we see posted of a properly built motor?

Very few.

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I feel better running a siamese 48 degree block.... but I don't see a lot of stock block combo's running 9.4's or better. We were close with our stock block program dipping into 9.8's, but in changing to a 48 degree head we went R3.

Re: New R blocks [Re: Porter67] #2215522
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
It will never fly, I just listed a new short block again, and every time I list a bare block I get pelted with crap offers.

So this will be my third race block install into a 550hp street motor if this dont sell in the last 3 years, silly I know but I dont have many oem blocks.

So really thats why I posted that if the guy does get it together Id get every single deposit prior to the first pouring.

How many here really need a race based block, how many split blocks do we see posted of a properly built motor?

Very few.


What deck height is this block? People don't want short deck blocks, and you can pick them up reasonably.


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Re: New R blocks [Re: scottb] #2215526
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4 bolt X with 40 minutes run since it was new listed for $2250+shipping and thats a big hit to me with 1k in machine work.

I just put a $2600 K1 kit in it and have it priced at $3500 for the short block, but would pull it apart to dump the block.

Id hit ebay with it but it but dang, another 10% down the tubes, nope.

Look at the pic, im dead serious, if I cant sell some junk its getting a 484/284 hydro cam, j heads where any junko 318 block would work but im done buying parts when I got plenty to use.

Ive one new untouched R (not currently for sale) tall and when I would of sold it for $1500 when I needed to move one less then a year ago with the only stip it had to be picked up in person I was still asked to get shipping quotes.

I did recently pull 4k for a over the counter no vin t/a block but for obvious reasons.

Id bet 99% of the people who run an R couldnt hurt an X and they are so stealth like.


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