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PICS OF "DRAG PAK'D" T/A HOOD SCOOP ADDED #2206467
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This is something of a rehash of an older thread I started, but I have more pics of the original Dick Landy-modified T/A hood scoop that I'm considering copying for my Challenger. I like it... and then again I don't... all at the same time, but I'd really like to increase my hood clearance at least 1" over the carb from what it has now.

Here's a variety of the pics I found of how Landy did it, which is NOT the same as the recently "restored" Landy Pro Stock Challenger's hood was done.


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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206470
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Some other original pics...

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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206474
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Three (3) pics of my Challenger, two as the T/A hood is now, and one I modified to provide a view of what I think it would look like w/ the "Landy Lump" mod.

Seriously... is this over the top for a silly-a$$ 10-sec. street/strip car, or would it not be that bad for what the car is?

I have to take trip right nearby the shop I spoke w/ before about doing to mod, and the temptation to throw the hood into the back of my van and drop it off to have it done is growing. work

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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206479
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Years ago I had a TA hood on my 73 challenger, I always thought the TA scoop was the best looking mopar ever built. The Landy scoop is a modification of the TA, since your car never had a TA scoop available, I would go for it, I think it would look great. Is somebody re-poping the Landy scoop or you just having some body do the glass work?

Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206483
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Basic answer is do whatever you want, it's your car. Some will like it, some will hate, but in the end it only matters what YOU think.

Now if it was me, I would skip the "lump" and just section the whole top half of the scoop and raise it. Same profile only higher. The lump looks like an after thought (which it was). But again, it really only matters what YOU think

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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: Monte_Smith] #2206487
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Basic answer is do whatever you want, it's your car. Some will like it, some will hate, but in the end it only matters what YOU think.

Now if it was me, I would skip the "lump" and just section the whole top half of the scoop and raise it. Same profile only higher. The lump looks like an after thought (which it was). But again, it really only matters what YOU think

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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206495
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I like the Landy Lump...Fits the car!

Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206506
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I don't really like the "lump" but I do like the TA style boundary layer bleed-off scoop. If I were you, I'd take a TA Scoop and cut it up so it looks like the scoop that comes on the late model Drag Pack cars ... that scoop is like a Darth Vader TA Scoop on steroids. The PR-2 Picture below is from Unlimited Fiberglass and shows the stock TA style hood scoop with dimensions that they sell. I'd buy that and start cutting and glassing it until I had what I wanted. I looked around to see if I could find a Drag Pack scoop available in the aftermarket with no luck. A friend of mine tracked down the business that makes the Drag Pack scoop to see if they would sell me one but they wanted like $1200 for just the scoop ... to pricy on my poorboy budget. Besides, I like getting all itchy working with fiberglass (not).

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I like a oversized ta scoop better, Rick Rhondy had on his challenger.


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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206512
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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206515
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I'm normally the guy who thinks that anything straying too far from stock looks ridiculous on a car whose bite can't back up its bark, but honestly I barely notice the difference from the factory T/A scoop to the Landy style one. It's not like you're adding one of those giant hardwood scoops or a 4" cowl (and just about every 10 second fox body or chevy has at least a 4" cowl LOL).

Off topic, but I love the look of the raised R/T hood. I could really use one so I can run something taller than the procharger low profile carb bonnet on my procharged setup but I can't find anyone who sells them anymore.

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Replies to various questions & comments...

The idea of sectioning the top of the whole hood scoop and raising it is similar to how the "restored" Landy car's hood was done, although there is a bit of the "lump" in that one, too. It turned out really nice -- although a good bit taller than the original -- and not like a band-aid job at all.

Nobody I could find repros the Drag Pak scoop, either. But it's also proportioned differently on the new Challenger.

I've gone back & forth on the VFN 5" T/A scoop that Rick R. and some others run for longer than I've been considering doing the Landy band-aid mod. On his solid 9-second car it looks cool. On mine... I think it would look like I don't have the car to back up the scoop.

Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: lockjaw-express] #2206546
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Originally Posted By lockjaw-express
I like the Landy Lump...Fits the car!

You calling my car a "lump"? tonguue

Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: Monte_Smith] #2206548
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Basic answer is do whatever you want, it's your car. Some will like it, some will hate, but in the end it only matters what YOU think.

Now if it was me, I would skip the "lump" and just section the whole top half of the scoop and raise it. Same profile only higher. The lump looks like an after thought (which it was). But again, it really only matters what YOU think


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scoop would look awesome with the openings at the same ht. as the lump; basically just the whole scoop raised to that ht. You see it all the time with taller 6-pac scoops. I'd love to see it. And don't apologize for applying this to "only a 10 second car". Don't let yourself get jaded, 10 second street E-bodies are mighty-cool indeed! and should never need to make an apology for anything! Great looking, and running car!!


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I agree with Monte. I'd probably either add a section to make the opening larger, or add below it to raise the scoop a bit. Landy's deal looks OK to me, but the whole point is fresh cool air.
I wouldn't worry about the context of a 10-second street car, that's still plenty respectable.
I don't even mind cowl-induction hoods on Mopars, which is something I might do with my Duster project because I think it fits better into the sleeper/patina vibe the car has instead of the 6-pack scoop on it now. It needs 3" over the air cleaner to clear the Indy BB top end, otherwise I'd run a flat hood.

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Put the lump in the scoop.


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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206632
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If I was guessing and this is strictly a GUESS........the only reason Landy did that, is there was probably a rule dictating scoop opening height and size to remain stock at the time. But that didn't stop them from doing OTHER things. You know......those gray areas of a rule........LOL!!!

Plus, it's been proven that even with the boundary layer underneath the opening, those scoops really aren't high enough to do much good. That's why I would raise the whole thing. Most factory scoops are for looks or air cleaner clearance. They seldom work

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Re: "Landy Lump" scoop too obnoxious for 10-sec Street Car? [Re: BradH] #2206635
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I like the one you have now-1st, then the Landy lump, and lastly the taller no lump. But I assume you need more carb clearance, so the lump has my vote. I'm sure you can get one from year one smile


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The one who bent the rules the most was Smokey Yunick....but what do I know? laugh


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