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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2198839
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A pro stock class based on the rules from the 70's or 80's using late model Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros would be a lot more interesting than the class is today. Original body and chassis. Factory block. etc, etc. Pro mod has become more interesting than pro stock. They just need to leave to blowers for the funny cars.

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Originally Posted By dodge daytona
even nostaligia pro stock only wants 7.90 door slammers,i built a car to run in nostalgia pro stock,when i was told it wouldnt fit in because it wasnt fast enough i traded for the daytona i have now


I don't have any interest in this "interpretation" of Nostalgia PS. What I would be interested in would be more of the original cars, Hemi Dusters, 427 Camaros, BBF Mustangs and Mavericks, etc. I guess a lot of guys have old PS cars from the 1980s and with the big inch engines common today they all want to run in the 7s. That isn't the era of PS I want to see, much less build a car for. I'm more interested in the FSS cars like the new DP Challengers, COPO Camaros, and CJ Moosetangs. They are getting close to the 7s as well.


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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: TooMany62s] #2199421
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Originally Posted By TooMany62s
A pro stock class based on the rules from the 70's or 80's using late model Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros would be a lot more interesting than the class is today. Original body and chassis. Factory block. etc, etc. Pro mod has become more interesting than pro stock. They just need to leave to blowers for the funny cars.


IHRA had a good thing going for a while when it was blower vs nitrous in Pro Mod. NHRA should take Pro Mod and make it the replacement for Pro Stock. The Pro Stockers of today look like wind-tunnel jelly beans anyway. Can you blame ANY manufacturer for not supporting it?

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Whatever the class as time goes on the drivers want more for their car to go faster and that's how we arrived at 2016.

PS is boring, should have left it alone as there were multiple winners.
Factory stock shoot out is better, but huge dollars to play.

Look at stock eliminator, when a 327 Nova is running 10' second ET's within the rules then this has all gone way to far.

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Factory Stock is where its at but Mopar dropped the ball there to.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204198
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Interesting Allen Johnson article. Look up "dedicated" in the dictionary and you'll find his pic!

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/allen-johnson-forging-ahead-with-the-mopar-minority

Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204213
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Well...........maybe that will put to rest some of the "Mopar screwed the Johnson's" whiners. Seems they made an offer Johnson didn't accept, but still gets engineering and parts help. Fail to see how Allen was screwed by Mopar

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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Well...........maybe that will put to rest some of the "Mopar screwed the Johnson's" whiners. Seems they made an offer Johnson didn't accept, but still gets engineering and parts help. Fail to see how Allen was screwed by Mopar



Yup, another low ball offer.

I can tell you this...for a fact. There was a time when they couldn't even buy a block. It had to be done through a third party.

That is all I'll say because I shouldn't have said that. But it's a FACT.

Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.


Screwed by Chrysler again. Once it was the Germans. Now it's the Italians.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204255
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It takes a certain amount of money for a one car team. If Mopar wasn't willing to pay what it took and Allen turned what they did offer down, it's not their fault. Maybe they(Mopar) were promised something by NHRA that didn't happen and they chose to limit their involvement.

How can they sponsor a two car team then is next question and that's an easy answer. OTHER sponsors on a two car team, that's how. Especially if one is Jegs

Schumacher has made a great team doing this. He pools ALL the money and divides it equally among cars. That's how a low dollar sponsor like Matco has a car that runs the same as a mega-sponsor car like Army. Can't do that with just ONE car.

Dodge doesn't even make the Dart anymore, why should they even care about Pro Stock anyway. Answer they don't. Rules didn't go their way, they want out. That's not screwing the Johnson's.........that's business

Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: Monte_Smith] #2204261
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Pro Stock is going to die, give it another couple of years. The factory support will cease soon enough.

The article on Competition Plus mentioned above, Allen Johnson made some good points. Many of which have been mentioned here and other sites. Supercharged, factory engines with 5 speed liberty trans would sound interesting.

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Originally Posted By LA360
Pro Stock is going to die, give it another couple of years. The factory support will cease soon enough.

The article on Competition Plus mentioned above, Allen Johnson made some good points. Many of which have been mentioned here and other sites. Supercharged, factory engines with 5 speed liberty trans would sound interesting.


This. Pro Mod will take it's place. I also look for Pro Stock bike to fade to black. Pro Stock just isn't fun to watch any more. Look at the stands when they are running. Fans want nitro or twin turbo'd hemis.

Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: BobR] #2204620
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What Pro Stock SHOULD look like

musyta g.jpg

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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204630
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NA racing just isn't popular enough anymore. We racers love it but the typical fan doesn't see the excitement in it.


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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204641
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Not enough stuff blowing up and hitting stuff I suppose smile


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Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2204706
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Yup, should be new bodies.

The fans have proven they don't care what the power plant is, so they should keep the engines they have, carb or EFI, scoop or not, new crap with a blower if they want it.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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I like the idea of taking current chassis, with new bodies and the supercharged factory motors. That would seem a no brainer......but I guess not. That would be Super Stock or Top Stock on steroids which is what Pro Stock started as

Re: Is Mopar Done With Pro Stock? [Re: SRT6776] #2205146
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A buddy sent me a link on facebook stating that pro stock in 18 is going to be bodied cars, Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro. I so hope this is true since it seems Pro stock is spending themselves out of a gig...


http://dragcoverage.com/factory-cars-pro-stock-2018/


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When NHRA does away with current Prostock format it cannot be too soon
Go to the Stock Eliminator FS shootout style cars and the car counts will instantly double or triple.

On the flip-side I just wouldn't want to be the one at NHRA to send out the letter to the current Prostock teams telling them the recent investment they made to make the NHRA mandated changes fuel injection engine management ect... are now obsolete, because the class as they know it is going away.

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Originally Posted By Moparnut426
A buddy sent me a link on facebook stating that pro stock in 18 is going to be bodied cars, Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro. I so hope this is true since it seems Pro stock is spending themselves out of a gig...


http://dragcoverage.com/factory-cars-pro-stock-2018/

That link is just to a story of some guy saying what HE thinks Pro- Stock should be. Same as we are doing here. If they were actually going to do that, the teams would be the first to know and I doubt we would be having this discussion about Mopar getting out

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