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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2190459
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I'll be sticking with a standalone Megasquirt ECU.


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2196341
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Is this for the VVT or the earlier engines and does it do the MDS stuff?


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: HotRodDave] #2196464
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For 2014 to present. Runs factory 5.7 and 6.4.
So VVT and MDS are functional.
This I believe is the only true plug outfit for a 385 HP 5.7 and 485 HP 6.4.
Matt

Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2196587
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They could be manual trans engines without MDS so they can be used with any trans. That would make more sense.


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: 72Swinger] #2196664
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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
They could be manual trans engines without MDS so they can be used with any trans. That would make more sense.


You are correct.
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The unlocked factory PCM has a custom calibration; the Mopar 345 Crate Hemi Engine Kit bumps horsepower to 383 and torque to 425 lb.ft. for the 5.7-liter (well above production stock), while the 392 Crate Hemi Engine Kit keeps the 6.4 at 485 horses and 472 lb.ft. of torque. The engines are designed for manual transmissions; automatic transmissions, such as the Torqueflite 727 and 904, while not optimal, can also be adapted.
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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2197407
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The kit works with 2013+ engines!
MattW is very right, the crank target wheel and sensor is different 2012 and prior.

what else is different on a older engine, I'm not sure.

No MDS btw.

As for the canadian prices... find a place that will give you some percent off.. price is MSRP. already seeing it online for cheaper, like 1560$ USD. Thats 2093$ CAD today..



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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2197434
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I wonder if this would work with a hellcat?

Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2197486
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Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
I wonder if this would work with a hellcat?


nope.

Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: MattW] #2199201
11/19/16 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By MattW
Called mopar performance and they said its unlocked. Diablo and away you go!
This could be the answer to many problems with retrofitting this engine.
Matt


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2199204
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Originally Posted By AZ_A12_BEE
Originally Posted By MattW
Called mopar performance and they said its unlocked. Diablo and away you go!
This could be the answer to many problems with retrofitting this engine.
Matt


What is a Diablo?


Handheld tuner that you can load flash tunes onto. You may be able to tune on-the-fly with it?


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2200022
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I thought the 5.7 was making 395 in the newer trucks, 345 was the 03-08 rating? Seems if it is for the newer truck engine (most redily available of the 2013+ engine) it will make less HP not more... I am confused


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345 is the displacement. 345 cubic inch = 5.653L .. so 5.7L.
it makes 383 HP, 425 torque.

current ram is 395hp, 410 torque. (but this is a different variant of the 5.7L hemi)

Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2200813
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The ram 5.7 has a different intake that's supposed to make better power, but I suspect it's a lot of "pen and paper dyno numbers". I think besides the intake they're the same motor (cam, heads, compression etc)

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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2200816
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
The ram 5.7 has a different intake that's supposed to make better power, but I suspect it's a lot of "pen and paper dunk numbers". I think besides the intake they're the same motor (cam, heads, compression etc)


Don't know why its only 383 hp and the new ram is 395.
Can't be the intake on the ram cuz they use a variable intake on the 6.4. So they should be able to do the ram also?
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The 5.7 crate uses the car intake, I think the truck intake is the "reason" the Rams rated at 395.

Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2201045
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I think the truck intake is variable runner as well.


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I have a 2011 ram 5.7 intake here and it is variable


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2293237
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I called Diablo today as I'm almost ready to start my 6.4 and I bought the mopar crate wiring and computer kit. Diablo stated that they do not have anything that support this PCM? I was told that the PCm is umlocked but their software may "re-lock it"

I'm not sure if the guy knew what he was talking about... anyone else have any input on this issue?? Thanks.

Mech


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Call BFNY.(440) 787-7235


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Re: Mopar is making a retrofit kit! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2296051
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Pushed like hell for MP to sell that 2006-7-8-9-10-11-12 and 13.

Multiple lists of part numbers created by my coworkers, countless emails and discussions why it would be a great idea, hours and hours spent trying to convince people, etc.

Better late than never, right?

In the time between '13 and today, how many customers got tired of waiting and went the LS route? Only a couple, right? LOLzz







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