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Mopar is making a retrofit kit! #2188221
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http://www.allpar.com/news/2016/11/mopar-just-made-hemi-retrofits-far-easier-34711

Now hopefully they actually make it, unlike many of their past catalogue items that were unavailable

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And a more informative link:

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/crate.html

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the crate engines will be nice, also they have warranty. but for performance applications its probably better to use someone elses PCM

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Since it's an unlocked PCM (with self learning and torque management turned off) a Diablo tuner could put whatever tune you want.

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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Since it's an unlocked PCM (with self learning and torque management turned off) a Diablo tuner could put whatever tune you want.


This is what I would like to know.
Not looking at 2500 hp or 5 kits of the sauce or even traction control.
Would like to know the limits of the calibration.
Matt

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It wasn't this site, but one of them said it was 50 state legal emissions, and it has a 2 year warranty. Makes me think the pcm might not be as unlocked as they say.

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Called mopar performance and they said its unlocked. Diablo and away you go!
This could be the answer to many problems with retrofitting this engine.
Matt

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Can the Diablo tune for a large cam or forced induction?

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For sure it can, lots of cam/forced induction guys over on LXForums

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Im glad they're finally doing this the RIGHT way. To bad its 10 years to late.


Mopar to the bone!!!
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Good news!

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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Im glad they're finally doing this the RIGHT way. To bad its 10 years to late.


No kidding.

The Mopar Performance program has always been run on a shoestring and screwed up. I know an engineer (now retired) who was actually working on a 440 crate engine with (EFI I think) and the hoops of red tape he had to jump through was insane.




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Priced one in Canada and was actually surprised how cheap it was, ( cheap being a relative term )
and I just happen to have an empty engine bay in the garage.....


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Originally Posted By 67autocross
Priced one in Canada and was actually surprised how cheap it was, ( cheap being a relative term )
and I just happen to have an empty engine bay in the garage.....


what was the canadian pricing if you don't mind me asking? I have a duster and a D100 that could both possibly get a new hemi, one will for sure

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Being thats its 1800 us I'm thinking 2500 + Canadian
Lets say 1800 from NY state.
1800 X 7% sale tax= 1926 US
1926 US X 1.33 for the exchange =2176.
2176 X 1.13 for our sale tax=2459.

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Originally Posted By MattW
Being thats its 1800 us I'm thinking 2500 + Canadian
Lets say 1800 from NY state.
1800 X 7% sale tax= 1926 US
1926 US X 1.33 for the exchange =2176.
2176 X 1.13 for our sale tax=2459.


currency conversion on the 1926 is 2561.

I am lucky though I would be dealing with montana and alberta tax wise

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Messed up my numbers. Use 1.13 instead of 1.33.
So 2561 X 1.13= 2900 Can.

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Originally Posted By rednuck
Originally Posted By 67autocross
Priced one in Canada and was actually surprised how cheap it was, ( cheap being a relative term )
and I just happen to have an empty engine bay in the garage.....


what was the canadian pricing if you don't mind me asking? I have a duster and a D100 that could both possibly get a new hemi, one will for sure


I will PM you...


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From what I have been told this kit is mainly for the crate engines but will work on 2014 and newer production engines. Won't work on older engines.


If it doesn't have a motor.....it's not a REAL sport
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I believe the reason why is the crank Reluctor wheel or toner ring.
They changed them and it has a different tooth arrangement.
Change this and I think it will work.
Any VVT and will work provided the ring is the proper one.
Don't know if the cam position sensors are the same since the beginning of the VVT.
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