Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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Hey John, Could you tell what's weight of your Duster?
'77 Brazilian Dodge Charger R/T - Street Car Footbrake, Pump Gas, SB Mopar 360" N/A 3300lbs, Leaf Spring + Assassin Bars Best 1/8 mile ET 1.50 60' / 4.31 330' / 6.73@102.54mph
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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Hey John, Could you tell what's weight of your Duster? 2750-2800 right now. Used to be under 2600 when my Son was driving. He a skinny son of a gun but I also added steel doors, alternator, racepak and all the needed sensors, and a few other things to make it more race Friendly. Its my old-man car.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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11/01/16 05:13 PM
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Aint nothing but a thing to MAKE it 2800 or less..........LOL!!! I wish it was that easy, as it sits with 5 gallons of fuel and a full 10lb bottlet and me I'm 3320. Narrower rear end should lose some weight. Thinking about a glass hood and bumpers but idk
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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This is a good read here.
It seems maybe two or so who have posted on this could actually benefit from a race block.
If you look at the big picture of the trickle down effect on the wallet after getting out of a oem block and its power level its almost better for most to find a oem based combo that works.
Many of us take an oem block and want to push it with our eagle cranks, then some think an eagle crank will live in a 800hp plus setting, but nearly every race block ive asked about that needed sleeved many needed more then one and had a cheap off shore crank that was used.
How many have actually bought a race block then sprung for the proper high end crank? Few do.
So then what, is a glide or dana in the budget?
If one is bracket racing is it worth an added 5k in the block or crank area to chase a light?
Im getting ready to build a jinky 318 hydro camed motor for a bracket car because thats all it needs.
Most who want a better block are day dreaming in the wallet dept, put a new R3 up for sale at cost and add 2.5% for each year of having the money tied up and no one will inquire.
List one at 50% or less of new, like flies on raw meat. Thanks mopar friend.
Currently its a hard choice to build a older car to go fast, for so many years mopar guys had to because the current offerings sucked, now in the big picture a hellcat dont look too bad.
So now im gonna build this jinky 318, ive not touched one since I was in my teens but it should be fun and cheap and cause no worries.
On the hard block, yes it does seem to help the lower bores but as pointed out the temp difference is big but can be worked around. I run a short fill in one unit but dang does that block clink and clank when cooling down.
So even if all oem blocks could take 800hp, how many are willing or could afford to step up on the trans and rear diff front? Or for that matter make the jump to quicker then 10.0 racing with all the fun rules and costs.
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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Aint nothing but a thing to MAKE it 2800 or less..........LOL!!! I wish it was that easy, as it sits with 5 gallons of fuel and a full 10lb bottlet and me I'm 3320. Narrower rear end should lose some weight. Thinking about a glass hood and bumpers but idk I haven't raced a car that FAT since I made a pass in my 1972 Cutlass Supreme back in the early 80's
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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Aint nothing but a thing to MAKE it 2800 or less..........LOL!!! I wish it was that easy, as it sits with 5 gallons of fuel and a full 10lb bottlet and me I'm 3320. Narrower rear end should lose some weight. Thinking about a glass hood and bumpers but idk The thing is...it IS just that easy. I didn't say free or even cheap, but it IS easy. I am not picking on you here, but seriously, how do you even MAKE a small block A-body that is supposed to be a race car THAT heavy. I have mentioned this several times, but my GTX, with an iron Mega-block with alum heads, me and two nitrous bottles was 3200 ready to race and I had to add some ballast to get there. No gutted race car either. All factory floor pans with steel tubs and full factory rails. 12 point cage. Ladder bar coilover rear, coilovers on the front with a rack. All steel except for hood, chrome bumpers, all factory glass and even had a back seat. I was likely 180 when I last raced that car, so that means the car was basically 3000 ready to race with a bit of ballast. So the weights that guys say their cars are simply blows my mind. Not sure how you even make something that is supposed to be a race car as heavy as some claim
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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I take no offense Monte. Honestly it's an all steel car, still full interior with heavy stock parts. It's a 74 with crash bars in the door, I never intended for it to be a race car or even this fast.... and I'm 6'2 260+ so that's not too helpful. The R3 is heavy too, car is actually right around factory 74 weight lol. Idk, probably build another car, not willing to gut out my 1st car What's a R3 ?
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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You should consider a Hellcat... I'm pricing out a stock one with a polished blower and nitrous tonight trouble maker. Lol. Don't get these guys roughed up again Ted HOW did I miss this ? LMAO
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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I take no offense Monte. Honestly it's an all steel car, still full interior with heavy stock parts. It's a 74 with crash bars in the door, I never intended for it to be a race car or even this fast.... and I'm 6'2 260+ so that's not too helpful. The R3 is heavy too, car is actually right around factory 74 weight lol. Idk, probably build another car, not willing to gut out my 1st car What's a R3 ? R3 block... SBM stuff Tony, leave us slow kids alone lmao
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Re: Anybody pushing a stock 340 block hard?
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I take no offense Monte. Honestly it's an all steel car, still full interior with heavy stock parts. It's a 74 with crash bars in the door, I never intended for it to be a race car or even this fast.... and I'm 6'2 260+ so that's not too helpful. The R3 is heavy too, car is actually right around factory 74 weight lol. Idk, probably build another car, not willing to gut out my 1st car What's a R3 ? R3 block... SBM stuff Tony, leave us slow kids alone lmao Thought you had a stock block....lol
....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
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