HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Motor is done. Paint is done. Interior is done. Looking to do a nice wheel setup on my 1966 Plymouth Satellite. Currently running 245/60/15 moonies in the rear and 225's in the front. Looking to put some deep dish Forgeline RB3C's all the way around.
Preferably I'd be interested in 315's in the rear but don't know where to start. Do I need a leaf spring relocation kit, mini tub, not sure what y'all have done to get some 315's to fit back there? Ideas???
Thank you for the help.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Welcome aboard! The first thing I would do is see how much clearance you have on each side of the sidewall and the rim clearances also. at lock to lock each way. Others with more exp in that area will chime in. Likely those tires you have in mind will have a listed sidewall dimention
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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I think you would need a mini tub for anything with more than a 12 inch section width. You MAY be able to fit something slightly less without it, I am planning to attempt it next time I buy tires for my '67, pretty sure I can make it work. Tires I'm looking at are 11.8 section width (275/L60 bias) but its going to be TIGHT and require alot of backspacing. Not sure if it will actually fit but based on my math its the largest I can go. I've got SS springs too which helps.
Of course I'll be measuring more carefully when I actually get ready to buy them, but IMO 12 is the max. You're trying to fit almost 13, I don't think it will work without some modification.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Moving springs inboard is only part of the solution on the '66-67 B-bodies...you also have to worry about trying to get the wheel/tire actually on the car via tilting the wheel/tire and trying to stuff it in.
Stretching the panels out and narrowing the rear is really needed as well to stuff something big in there.
To get even a 275/60/15 on these is a pain...and usually means jacking up the car via the frame to allow the rear to hang as low as the spring will allow, and then also putting a bottle jack on the rear and jacking it further down.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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If you have a 66' B-body and are running wider tires, i'd like to see some photos to go off of. I've never done a mini tub before, so looks like I'll be doing a lot of research over the next few weeks. Once I get it done, I'll show y'all the before and after shots. PHOTO OF MY 66' PLYMOUTH SATELLITE CURRENTLY: https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...amp;oe=58A911AF
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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You say 315's but do you have a specific size in mind? Being that you mentioned Forgelines, I doubt you are talking 315/60-15's, which are different that 315/40-18's.
The dished look you are after will likely require a narrowed rear, but you do not need a narrowed rear to simply run a wider tire.
the 66-67 B bodies have a restrictive wheel opening, you are only able to fit a ~28" tall tire without stretching, trimming, hacking the wheel opening. Relocating the springs and tubbing are necessary for the width.
On my 66, Springs are relocated, fabricated tubs, 70 B-body width rear
Pics in order are: 315/60-15 on 15x10 w/ ~7.625 BS 325/50-15 on 15x10 w/ 7.5 BS 295/55-15 on 15x10 w/ 7.5 BS same
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Although mine is an E Body. No way you are going to fit a 315 without relocating the springs and a mini tub. I had to do both of those mods on my Challenger. Here is a 315 on a 12" wide wheel.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Although mine is an E Body. No way you are going to fit a 315 without relocating the springs and a mini tub. I had to do both of those mods on my Challenger. Here is a 315 on a 12" wide wheel. Do not compare any A B C Or E body wheel wells with 66-67 B body wheel wells...
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Agreed, just saying mine are larger and I still had to mak the mods to make it all work.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Where there is a will, there is a way Sorry for the shadows...fab'd tubs to the outside of the framerail Fuel cell not necessary, but makes room for tailpipes with the relocated springs
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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Where there is a will, there is a way Sorry for the shadows...fab'd tubs to the outside of the framerail Fuel cell not necessary, but makes room for tailpipes with the relocated springs This is sooooooo tempting on my convertible.
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Re: HELP with 315 REAR WHEEL SETUP on 1966 Plymouth Satellite 440
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I have 325/50/15 on my 67 Coronet. It has the leaf springs moved in and the inner wheel wells split to the frame. It is 1.5"-2" lower than stock. You are welcome to come and look at the car and take measurements. I live in Argyle, TX.
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