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thread sealer on pick up tube? #2173502
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Do you guys use thread sealer or lock tite on pick up tube threads? 400 block.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173508
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I have used gasket shellac


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Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173575
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There is a slight taper on the threads so you don't need any sealer.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173632
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There is a slight taper on the threads so you don't need any sealer.


BS !! ALL pipe threads are tapered - but if you look at any joint done by a pro - gas, water or oil, they use a thread sealant.

The sealant ensures a good seal when you have to back off the fitting for alignment and it also ensures the fitting will stay put.

Go with the sealant. There is a product on the market now called "Pipe Goop". Its clear, will solidify somewhat and is easy to remove if the joint ever has to come apart. Its way less messy than the white pipe sealant.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173635
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I use high temp liquid teflon on mine, seems to work good for me

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Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173672
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I use liquid teflon pipe dope, sparingly, not dripping tsk


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Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2173697
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NOT All pipe threads are tapered. There is a standard for straight pipe threads, NPS. I believe the oil pickup tube is NPS.

I ran into this pipe thread overseas. It seems to be more common over there. Sealing a straight thread pipe involves using sealer or something like hemp, turning the pipe into the fitting, then locking it down with a jam nut. This jam nut is supposed to put tension on the joint and get the threads to push against each other, creating a mechanical seal.

http://www.regalcuttingtools.com/products/taps/pipe-taps/straight-pipe-taps/nps-straight-pipe-taps

I would recommend Loctite 567 or 545. They both seal at higher temperatures, 300 and 400F and can be taken apart with hand tools.

R.

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Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173698
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ok, thanks guys. I will get some thread sealer then.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173725
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The pickup tube is tapered.

Pipe threads that are tapered seal themselves so no pipe SEALER is required on them.

However, pipe lubricant , such as teflon, is required to achieve the recommended torque to seal the pipe. Teflon and other thread lubricants will not seal but will allow proper torque compared to bare threads.

A sealer would be used in straight threads, such as header bolts open to a water jacket, that have no taper and require a sealant to keep them from leaking.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: DJVCuda] #2173730
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I do have a roll of Teflon tape in the tool box. Guess I'm all set. Thanks

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173734
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
I do have a roll of Teflon tape in the tool box. Guess I'm all set. Thanks


I wouldn't use that. Not to be a naysayer but the risk of that getting into the oiling system is too great for me. I would use liquid teflon or nothing.


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2173886
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
I do have a roll of Teflon tape in the tool box. Guess I'm all set. Thanks


NO!


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Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: JohnRR] #2173894
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Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: JohnRR] #2174009
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
I have used gasket shellac


iagree

Indian Head gasket shellac

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2174021
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What did the factory use? They built more engines than we will, and they warrantied them! LOL

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: NANKET] #2174029
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Originally Posted By NANKET
What did the factory use? They built more engines than we will, and they warrantied them! LOL


Next time I build an engine to factory specs, I'll consider that, but I don't have the budget to replace engines like the factory does.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2174054
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The factory original pick-up tubes that I have, and had in the past are not tapered, they are straight pipe thread. After market pick-ups seem to be tapered. The threads in the blocks are tapered pipe thread. The threads are designed to seal without sealer but need to have lubricant/sealer to help assure good joint make-up.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2174092
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I'm wondering why its called "Teflon pipe sealant" instead of "Teflon pipe lubricant".

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: mopar dave] #2174147
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It can't really go anywhere once the pan is on but you don't want to be sucking air in the threads so I use a little dab of sealer. I use a low strength Loctite blue to do the job but there are probably a bunch of things that will work.

Re: thread sealer on pick up tube? [Re: BSB67] #2174224
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Originally Posted By BSB67
The threads are designed to seal without sealer....


My bad, sealer needed

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