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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: RapidRobert] #2124594
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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
OT, I would confirm the lifters are free to rotate (Hughes "thunk" test) & the usual stuff that you are aware of more than I am, mixture/timing/immediate startup/goosing the throttle.


They spin freely since I had to ream each one to fit
and it will start with the EFI... I pre set the timing
36* before firing then check it... and I'll take it up
to 2000 rpm and move it around some.... they all slide
nicely... all at .0015 clearance
EDIT
plus these have the .012 EDM hole and light weight
lifters
wave

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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124598
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I broke my solid flat tappet in with Joe Gibbs break in oil + Lucas Zinc additive. Also only on the outer valve springs of a double set. I regularly run Lucas Hot Rod 10w-30, with the same zinc additive. Change the oil once a year.

6 years, a few thousand street miles, and well over a hundred passes and I've had zero cam issues.


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124604
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I broke mine in using the exact instructions Hughes sent with my cam, The instructions recommend Joe Gibbs Driven BR 10w30 or 5w30. It might not be the way everyone else does it, but its what the people who made my cam say to do and if something would of went wrong potentially it wouldn't be my fault!

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124605
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Depending on the cam lube used, another thing ive seen people do it put it on the sides of the lifters where they contact the lifter bores. BIG no no alot of that stuff is to ADD friction so the lifters do not slide on the cam lobes.


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124661
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
I don't have a flat tapped but used Lucas 30wt. Got a 2.5 gallon jug of it. Seemed like the rings seated on the first drive.


This is just a cam change... engine has about 850
miles on it but the tight LSA didnt like the EFI
or should I say it the other way around
wave

Mike,
Why didn't you go with a wider LSA roller grind? I know there isn't much to choose from in the catalogs, but if I find one that suits the combination, but has a tight LSA, I'll call them and have one ground wider. Comp can usually turn one of these around in a couple weeks, and then the lobe failure worries go away. Just a thought, since you are already set up for a roller.


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: B3RE] #2124697
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I used Lucas, it was more available than the Gibbs Driven. I've heard lots of good things about the Gibbs


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124704
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Saturday I changed the flat tappet cam and lifters in my circle track car and did the break in procedure. Sunday I changed the filter added another quart of break in oil and we went racing. despite some valve float issues we won the feature race and it still sounds like we have all the cam lobes. I used joe Gibbs assembly grease and break in oil. Normally run Bradd Penn oil

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: B3RE] #2124705
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Originally Posted By B3RE
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
I don't have a flat tapped but used Lucas 30wt. Got a 2.5 gallon jug of it. Seemed like the rings seated on the first drive.


This is just a cam change... engine has about 850
miles on it but the tight LSA didnt like the EFI
or should I say it the other way around
wave

Mike,
Why didn't you go with a wider LSA roller grind? I know there isn't much to choose from in the catalogs, but if I find one that suits the combination, but has a tight LSA, I'll call them and have one ground wider. Comp can usually turn one of these around in a couple weeks, and then the lobe failure worries go away. Just a thought, since you are already set up for a roller.


I didnt like a few things on the Comp lifters.. the
edm hole is .026.. too big when I got warm my oil
pressure was lower than I like plus I PR oil... lots
of built in losses.. the edm hole in the Hughes is .012
wave

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: ksj] #2124722
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Originally Posted By ksj
Gibbs for break in and Valvoline VR1Racing oil after that

This has worked well for me. All of my resto. hemi. max wedge. 440s. get this and works well. use the gibbs BR yellow lab. not the HR-2. then the Valvoline.

I have also used a lot of rotella in the past

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124942
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I use the Chrysler cam lube,STP and Rotella,fire it and break in the engine.


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We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2124993
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Brad Penn break in and cam lube in my new mill. Looks like all went well wink


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: Eric] #2125125
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The last couple flat tappet this is what I used with great results. I don't think it would hurt to run it all the time.. maybe lose a few horsepower but sure would be good for the cam

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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: LA360] #2125129
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Originally Posted By LA360
I used Lucas, it was more available than the Gibbs Driven. I've heard lots of good things about the Gibbs


I've been looking around what is out there local... I can get the
Lucas break in oil local... I'll look some more to see if Gibbs
is easy to get.... now ... with these break in oils do you add any
more zinc... or is too much zinc bad
thanks guys
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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2125132
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https://rislone.com/product/3x-concentrated-engine-oil-supplement-with-zinc-treatment/

Not sure about engine break in, but I have been using it lately with each oil change. And its available locally at Advance or Oreilly

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2125140
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I have had excellent success with Renegade Race oil Breakin 30 wt and then their 10/30 semisynthetic. Fairly priced and their additive package does not fall out of suspension like Joe Gibbs XP1, that makes a real mess of an engine.

Max Weg

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2125244
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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2125467
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Gibbs BR oil has all you need, no zinc additives necessary.
Same with their regular motor oil, no additives needed. That is the beauty of it.
I have done many new engines and cams with zero trouble. Great products.

Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: humpty] #2125495
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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: BIGSTROKER] #2125498
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I use Comp Break-in oil on engines I do, No problems yet.


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Re: Lets Talk Break In Oil [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2125657
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http://zddplus.com/about-us/tech-briefs/

Plenty of info to answer your questions and de-bunk all the BS on this post.

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