Dang it, I broke it. COMPRESSION CHECK 08/07
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07/31/16 01:04 PM
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I admittedly drive my Dakota with a heavy foot, but, never literally foot to the floor screaming high RPM's.... In a moment of frustration/panic, I wound the engine pretty tight last week. Now it smokes every time I start it. Too little time and too hot outside to dig in and diagnose it right now. Aside from the smoky starts, truck feels no different. But, it is using oil now. I'm thinking of buying a long block for it, but, with 166K on everything else, what kind of can of worms would I be opening? Truck is rust free (not dent free though) and aside from the AC not working, has been a good little truck in the year and a half I've owned it. Truck has the V6 and I would probably keep it. Just thinking out loud here. What would you do?
John
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 02:41 PM
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Polarapete
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I would keep it and build a fresh V6 for it. The truck does not owe you anything and whatever you get to replace it will have its own host of gremlins to be sorted.
I have thought several times that I should be selling my '87 and get a newer truck. I have seen a lot of appealing Dodges on CL and they would be perfect for towing a car trailer with the Ramcharger. But I don't need it yet and I also don't have payments either. The '87 runs very well, gas is cheap now, I have a new canopy on it and my dogs are comfortable and secure in it.
BTW 166K is not a lot of miles for a truck.
1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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Lower pan on intake been done on it yet? One of the first things I did. I used the Hughes kit. No A/C in this hasn't been too bad. My wagon has no A/C and that was BRUTAL!
John
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 03:04 PM
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Time to swap in a 318 or 360. More power and no worse on fuel. Go to to the salvage yard and find a low mile motor and stick it in there.
392 gen III hemi on E-85 727 trans Dana 60 10.02@134
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 04:42 PM
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Time to swap in a 318 or 360. More power and no worse on fuel. Go to to the salvage yard and find a low mile motor and stick it in there. If I go with the V8, do I need to swap the trans too? Then there's the matter of wiring and computer. I looked underhood one day and thought "Hmmmm... a modern Hemi would fit".....but reality is that would be WAY beyond my budget. Or would it?
John
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 05:58 PM
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The trans will bolt right up to a v-8. The motor mounts, accessories and exhaust bolt on. You will need a v-8 PCM and possibly a harness. I was cheap and used the existing V-6 harness when I did mine. Just had to add 2 injector driver wires to make it work.
392 gen III hemi on E-85 727 trans Dana 60 10.02@134
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 11:08 PM
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Time to swap in a 318 or 360. More power and no worse on fuel. Go to to the salvage yard and find a low mile motor and stick it in there. He's right. There's lots around, they are dirt cheap and the miles are low. Not only that, but I think you will get your money back at re-sale time: you'll have the only 360 Dakota in the classifieds and people will want it!
Mo' Farts
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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07/31/16 11:52 PM
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I think you're okay. If the weakest one you have is the 904 based one (42 or 44RH/RE) it should'nt be an issue. Actually, better than the 727 based power-sucking turds (46RE/RH).
Mo' Farts
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Re: Dang it, I broke it. Do I fix or move on.......
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08/01/16 09:35 PM
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I guess the question is, how much oil is it going through? That would be the deciding factor. Might be a good time to run a compression test to see if you broke rings or piston ring lands. If the compression test shows OK, you probably blew out the valve seals or the bottom intake gasket.
I over revved the 3.9 in my coupe when I was out playing one day. Even after that, it ran nearly a full year before I grew concerned enough I replaced it. That motor had a pretty sorted history to begin with, and 149K miles on it. I replaced it with another 3.9 (I bought a wrecked truck with a good motor for cheap). That replacement used motor uses a quart of oil about every 1,000 miles when driving around town (even nearly dead, the original motor didn't use oil). The "new" motor has 118K miles and has had a timing belt replaced.
The truck I bought (for then scrap price, $275) has nearly paid for itself from parts I've sold off, I'm keeping it around in case I need something else, too bad the frame was bent so badly.
Even with a nearly free replacement motor, I have $300-$400 in stuff I've replaced with the motor (the while I'm here syndrome).
I'd run your current motor until it shows signs that concern you. That may be a very long time. A running driving Dakota (of that era) that moves down the road (even with a smoking motor) will bring $1,000 here, parts trucks still bring $500. Run it until it dies, then sell it to someone building an old car or truck. Gene
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08/02/16 12:09 AM
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I don't see a lot of smoke, but,admittedly its hard to watch the tailpipe all the time. Usually it uses about half a quart between oil changes (3500-4000 miles), its gone down half a quart in about 200 miles since this happened. And today I (briefly) heard what sounded like piston slap? Not 100% sure, but, it was definitely a sound I haven't heard before. Prices on Dakotas around here vary widely (by huge margins), no rhyme or reason. It's VERY rare to see one below $800 no matter how trashed it is. I almost scored another '93 for cheap last year, but the owner wouldn't budge on the price. The truck ran good but had a blown trans, they were asking $650, I had $500 cash and honestly couldn't go higher at the time. They junked the truck instead. I guess Pick-A-Part gave them more than I could.
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