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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2119353
07/27/16 09:02 PM
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Between a rock & a hard place
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
lol it is still busy...


Hopefully it's not off-the-hook!

I drove by there a couple of weeks ago and there was signs of life. A few cars in the parking lot, a pick up against the wall on the side, etc.

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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2119977
07/28/16 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
lol it is still busy...


The answering machine has been disconnected.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: d7cook] #2120211
07/28/16 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By d7cook
Originally Posted By WedgeFED
lol it is still busy...


The answering machine has been disconnected.


Ruh Roh!

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2120280
07/29/16 12:15 AM
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Talked to Ken today...Good things too

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2120365
07/29/16 02:33 AM
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Good luck with that.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: John Burdine] #2120380
07/29/16 03:53 AM
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Not trying to offer excuses for KB but I had called them, Ken Black ended up talking to me, last year to see how long and how much for a new street Hemi block with dry sleeves. He said thay had switch vendors on the castings and the casting cores and they where getting blocks that where to soft to use so he couldn't give me a good date on shipping me a block work I hope he has resolved that but you need to know that thier are not a lot of company left in So Ca that can cast aluminum blocks and the same on companys that can and will make good casting cores whiney shruggy
Good luck to all of you waiting up Hopefully you will get a very good, useable block once the problems are resolved thumbs

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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2120779
07/29/16 05:56 PM
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The problem is too many people assume the worst. Ken will dig out of this it is just not going to happen overnight. If you wanna be pissed be pissed at the [censored] California has done to good businesses.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2120809
07/29/16 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
The problem is too many people assume the worst. Ken will dig out of this it is just not going to happen overnight. If you wanna be pissed be pissed at the [censored] California has done to good businesses.



Communication goes a long way and ESPECIALLY if you are in a known delayed system like his or counting on others. Answer the phone or pick up the phone.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: pittsburghracer] #2120874
07/29/16 08:10 PM
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yes I do agree with that...

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2120880
07/29/16 08:19 PM
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If I were in the market for an aluminum block, and I thought I wanted a KB block, I'd just hang on to my money and see how this whole situation with availability plays out.
If the lead time decreases to something under 6 months, and reports start coming in that people are regularly receiving their blocks with reasonable wait times, then I'd order one.
If that didn't pan out, I'd just have to accept it wasn't going to happen and then figure out an alternative direction.
No way I'm sending over 6k and waiting 18-24 months for a block.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2120951
07/29/16 10:21 PM
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I only had to send in 1/2 payment and the rest was due when it was finished. That s fair.


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2120994
07/29/16 11:37 PM
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Is everyone here that is waiting on a block waiting on a water block or solid block? Just wondering...

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2121715
07/31/16 03:07 AM
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I am pretty sure that last year on the NHRA web site there was a video about the fact that the latest engine blocks that are used in Top Fuel and Funny car are made from blocks of billet Aluminum by Alan Johnson. These are solid blocks and there is no casting involved, just a lot of NC machining. So the market has changed and not for the better if you want a water block.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2121727
07/31/16 04:00 AM
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I have a billet Brad Anderson hemi block. He can make them water blocks as well but there not as cheep as KB

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2122518
08/01/16 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
Is everyone here that is waiting on a block waiting on a water block or solid block? Just wondering...


They are waiting on a water block


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: FastmOp] #2122764
08/01/16 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
I have a billet Brad Anderson hemi block. He can make them water blocks as well but there not as cheep as KB


BAE have discontinued the Hemi water block. They only ever produced 2 & these are yet to be built & ran....

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2122768
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No demand I bet.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2124184
08/03/16 06:07 PM
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FWIW and this helps no one. But word on the street is he HAD to switch casting vendors because the state of California Environmental folks basically shut them down. Well made it so it would not be cost affective to comply with their regulations anyway. This happened awhile back I hear. Not making any excuses for sure, just sharing info.

Also hear that the Koleno deal was stuck in the water due to loosing the equipment to machine the rough castings was "lost" to a big name vendor who decided to keep it. Same issue with Bill Mitchel, casting and machining issues. I do see Indy acted accordingly and has raised its prices to help smile


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2124869
08/04/16 02:36 PM
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Now that can't be right Al. Just check on that other block thread. According to one member here casting and machining is a piece of cake, appears any idiot could do it...........LOL!!!

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: Monte_Smith] #2124880
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Heck do you guys remember when 440source had the sigh up list for the block they were going to have made. I ordered 2 as they were going to be made with that high strength unobtainable steel


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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