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Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2061145 04/25/16 12:15 AM 04/25/16 12:15 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	So can you run six cylinder head studs with this head? How does the top row work? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: 1967dartgt] #2061254 04/25/16 09:51 AM 04/25/16 09:51 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,449 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,449 north of coder	i must have missed it, but how far off are the flange holes on the headers ?

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: moparx] #2061281 04/25/16 10:52 AM 04/25/16 10:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Originally Posted By moparx i must have missed it, but how far off are the flange holes on the headers ? Go back to the pics on page 1 and see for your self

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2061291 04/25/16 11:03 AM 04/25/16 11:03 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,449 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,449 north of coder	thanks mr. p. i goofed again. i forgot about seeing those ! gettin' old sucks. sometimes i can't remember what i had for supper !

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #2061369 04/25/16 01:46 PM 04/25/16 01:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon	Originally Posted By CJD AUTOMOTIVE Originally Posted By AndyF Looks like a fun project. The bolt pattern on the exhaust seems wrong to me. Wonder what the designer was thinking there? The other choices on the head seem to make sense. It is wrong. Rick sent me pics of when he machined the first sets. I ask him about them and if they raised the exhaust bolt holes enough when the port was raised. He doubled checked and they didn't. He told me TTI was already making headers based on the wrong position, so they weren't going to change it. He did say he had Cometic making an exhaust gasket for the pattern. He also said a standard W5 gasket will fit, and just barely not cover the port, but does bias the header to the bottom of the port. Ha, that is too funny. They raised the port but forgot to raise the bolt holes. Umm, some sort of rookie running the CAD system over at Edelbrock these days??

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2061480 04/25/16 04:15 PM 04/25/16 04:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	While the headerboltsituation may be less than perfect and should have been sorted out but i realy dont think its going to be a problem to seal the headers.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2061554 04/25/16 06:27 PM 04/25/16 06:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 293 Michigan C ccarson enthusiast
ccarson enthusiast C Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 293 Michigan	If I didn't have so much money wrapped up into this W9 set up I would try the Victors.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: 1967dartgt] #2061713 04/25/16 10:54 PM 04/25/16 10:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Originally Posted By 1967dartgt So can you run six cylinder head studs with this head? How does the top row work? Did they change the way they bolt on or not? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2061725 04/25/16 11:08 PM 04/25/16 11:08 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 108 Socal L littleVAL member
littleVAL member L Joined: May 2014 Posts: 108 Socal	Seems like you could add tabs on the exhaust flange and drill a couple off extra holes in the head. The center in particular would respond well to another bolt in the center at the top Last edited by littleVAL; 04/25/16 11:09 PM.

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2062245 04/26/16 08:51 PM 04/26/16 08:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 370 Queensland Australia M moparmacka enthusiast
moparmacka enthusiast M Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 370 Queensland Australia	Can't wait mate.......I'm bursting at the seams to see how these things go. It has been a long time coming and its a pitty I invested so much into my W5's. All we need is someone to do decent blocks and look out for the small block brigade!!!! Andrew

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2062304 04/26/16 10:01 PM 04/26/16 10:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 733 jacksonville,FLORIDA slammedR/T super stock
slammedR/T super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 733 jacksonville,FLORIDA	I hate that exhaust bolt locations, I mean they spent all this time and effort just to put out a head that look like it fell off the back of Cooter's trailer. How do you as this huge company even allow something to leave your shop that way..... I guess either W9 or going to gen III Hemi will still be in my future 2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: slammedR/T] #2062641 04/27/16 12:32 PM 04/27/16 12:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,155 Tucson, Arizona clonestocker top fuel
clonestocker top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,155 Tucson, Arizona	Originally Posted By slammedR/T I hate that exhaust bolt locations, I mean they spent all this time and effort just to put out a head that look like it fell off the back of Cooter's trailer. How do you as this huge company even allow something to leave your shop that way..... Touche! Somebody finally said it. [img] [/img]

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: clonestocker] #2062643 04/27/16 12:40 PM 04/27/16 12:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Originally Posted By clonestocker Originally Posted By slammedR/T I hate that exhaust bolt locations, I mean they spent all this time and effort just to put out a head that look like it fell off the back of Cooter's trailer. How do you as this huge company even allow something to leave your shop that way..... Touche! Somebody finally said it. After how many years of saying you want to get it right!! Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: 1967dartgt] #2062950 04/27/16 08:29 PM 04/27/16 08:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A. roadhazard master
roadhazard master Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A.	Originally Posted By 1967dartgt Originally Posted By clonestocker Originally Posted By slammedR/T I hate that exhaust bolt locations, I mean they spent all this time and effort just to put out a head that look like it fell off the back of Cooter's trailer. How do you as this huge company even allow something to leave your shop that way..... Touche! Somebody finally said it. After how many years of saying you want to get it right!! And knowing there are aftermarket parts suppliers who have to make parts according to the screw up They need to correct it now IMO

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2067279 05/04/16 05:25 PM 05/04/16 05:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 226 S sst404b enthusiast
sst404b enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 226	Started work on our heads Monday. They flowed 364 @ 800 ootb and with a valve job and clean up of tool marks went 380 @ 800. They are going on 440 inch Ritter block 4.185 x 4 and will be up and running next week. Edlebrocks site now shows big block victor rockers and Houghes has them ready to ship, ours arrived yesterday.This stuff is the real deal and will make big inch small blocks easier to build,as the parts are now available. Also the exhaust bolt pattern is W2 and our old 2in headers bolt up without adapters.I will update as we get closer to dyno day. Ive got some pics but dont know how to post. Ray

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: sst404b] #2067978 05/05/16 09:42 PM 05/05/16 09:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Originally Posted By sst404b Started work on our heads Monday. They flowed 364 @ 800 ootb and with a valve job and clean up of tool marks went 380 @ 800. They are going on 440 inch Ritter block 4.185 x 4 and will be up and running next week. Edlebrocks site now shows big block victor rockers and Houghes has them ready to ship, ours arrived yesterday.This stuff is the real deal and will make big inch small blocks easier to build,as the parts are now available. Also the exhaust bolt pattern is W2 and our old 2in headers bolt up without adapters.I will update as we get closer to dyno day. Ive got some pics but dont know how to post. Ray Can you use the top row of head studs? Did they change them from the proto type? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068012 05/05/16 10:49 PM 05/05/16 10:49 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,198 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,198 aZLiViN	thanks for the additional info Ray.... hope you can post some picts up!

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: sst404b] #2068071 05/06/16 12:41 AM 05/06/16 12:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal Brian Hafliger OP master
Brian Hafliger OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal	Originally Posted By sst404b Started work on our heads Monday. They flowed 364 @ 800 ootb and with a valve job and clean up of tool marks went 380 @ 800. They are going on 440 inch Ritter block 4.185 x 4 and will be up and running next week. Edlebrocks site now shows big block victor rockers and Houghes has them ready to ship, ours arrived yesterday.This stuff is the real deal and will make big inch small blocks easier to build,as the parts are now available. Also the exhaust bolt pattern is W2 and our old 2in headers bolt up without adapters.I will update as we get closer to dyno day. Ive got some pics but dont know how to post. Ray How do you like that block? Any other details? What power are you expecting? Brian Brian Hafliger

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: 1967dartgt] #2068073 05/06/16 12:43 AM 05/06/16 12:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal Brian Hafliger OP master
Brian Hafliger OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal	Quote: Can you use the top row of head studs? Did they change them from the proto type? Nope... Brian Hafliger

Re: SB Victor heads [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2068202 05/06/16 11:31 AM 05/06/16 11:31 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar
CJD AUTOMOTIVE mopar Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 656 Florida	Not to hijack the thread, but spoke with Don Flanagan at Crower yesterday, and the Crower stainless rocker shafts for this head will be ready in about 4 weeks....so I'm told. You will have to mill the cast stands and bolt on their steel stands and rockers. Just an option for you guys wanting to run high spring pressures or endurance applications. Craig Scholl CJD Automotive, LLC Jacksonville, FL www.CJDAUTOMOTIVE.com 904-400-1802 "I own a Mopar. I already know it won't be in stock, won't ship tomorrow, and won't fit without modification"

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