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carnage at the dyno #2022162
02/29/16 10:30 PM
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well today was dyno day and i thought it was going to be a great day, but it didnt turn out that way. engine came apart on the 5th short pull. only had 6000rpm on it at the time. not sure what caused it yet. still have to get it apart for examination. on #8 cylinder eagle H beam broke in the middle of the beam and both 8740 rod bolts are broke as well. looks like it took out 2 pistons the cam and the block. total pile of sh!t. also broke the pick up on the oil pump. looks like ill have to start over. it will be interesting to see what the cause was.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022174
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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Ugh...

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: BradH] #2022175
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Ouch... the only consolation is better to find it on the dyno vs in the car.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022178
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Oh non !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a deception !!

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: ahy] #2022180
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absolutely. the main reason i dynoed it.
https://youtu.be/hgoORq5ryWw

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022189
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Very sorry to hear that.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022196
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it had about 45 minutes on it. put it thru a short break in as well. everything looked good, compression test showed all 8 had 195-200psi. checked plugs twice and got the timing dialed in at 35*. the carb was still fat and a jet change was next. i was using one of my new 750 ultras xp straight out of the box. my 850 had some fat issues in the midrange that we didnt want to mess with.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: Darryls-Demon] #2022199
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thanks. first time it happened to me. i think this was the 5th engine i put together and the first to explode. the number 8 piston looks like the pin was trying to come out the bottom. ill post some pics at the end of the week when i get it apart.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022201
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Does the rod look "sawed off" where it hit the block, or just broken. With both rod bolts broken, my GUESS would be oiling issue or it just broke a rod bolt. Usually when one just breaks a rod, the big end stays on the crank.

Watching video, it didn't really sound to be laboring before it broke. So maybe it just broke a bolt. Even beat all to hell, the bearing should show an oil problem if there was one

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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: Monte_Smith] #2022206
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no it looks hammered and the rod journal is black. the rod bearings where calico and had the black coating so not sure if thats the coating im looking at or a oiling issue. the dyno operator said he thought the motor was down about 50hp at 6000 compared to what he usually sees. idled real good before every pull. had 55psi oil pressure when it broke.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022214
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Man, sorry to see that. You put a lot of work into that piece. I hope at least the heads are salvageable.


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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: Monte_Smith] #2022216
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just took another look at the rod journal. does look like it got hot. wouldnt the #8 rod journal be the first to get oil?

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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: sgcuda] #2022218
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yeah, i dont have those off yet, but we will see.

Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022220
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Sorry to hear about the failure! shocked


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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022223
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Perhaps the crank was out of round? How do the other bearings look? What brand crank?

Be a good time to upgrade to a magnum block at the least.


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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022224
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Darn Dave, sorry about your engine.

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That is awful. Sorry to see that. frown that #8 is usually the first bearing to cook on a sb with oiling issues.

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VERY sorry to hear this Dave.


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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022238
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
well today was dyno day and i thought it was going to be a great day, but it didnt turn out that way. engine came apart on the 5th short pull. only had 6000rpm on it at the time. not sure what caused it yet. still have to get it apart for examination. on #8 cylinder eagle H beam broke in the middle of the beam and both 8740 rod bolts are broke as well. looks like it took out 2 pistons the cam and the block. total pile of sh!t. also broke the pick up on the oil pump. looks like ill have to start over. it will be interesting to see what the cause was.


Totally sucks, sorry to hear that.


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Re: carnage at the dyno [Re: mopar dave] #2022245
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I can't tell from the picks where it got the block. Did it take out a pan rail or something else I missed?

It's hard to say about the oiling and does number 8 get it first. It is technically a constant flow system so once there is pressure if the pump can keep they should all get oil all the time. My experience shows 3 and 4 are the first not to get oil but that is usually about 8000 RPM.

Bad deal for you for sure.


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