Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement #1996916
01/23/16 12:27 PM
01/23/16 12:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
F
f2502011 Offline OP
enthusiast
f2502011  Offline OP
enthusiast
F

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
Had too cool of a thermostat (160) pulled it and replaced with a 180 and now the housing is leaking. Used new gasket, thin film of thermostat housing sealer, torqued bolts to spec and it's leaking. What did I do wrong and how can I fix?


1970 EK2 T/A 727
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996918
01/23/16 12:28 PM
01/23/16 12:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Supercuda Offline
About to go away
Supercuda  Offline
About to go away

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
what engine?

What housing?


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996934
01/23/16 12:54 PM
01/23/16 12:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
F
f2502011 Offline OP
enthusiast
f2502011  Offline OP
enthusiast
F

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
340 stock


1970 EK2 T/A 727
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996941
01/23/16 01:04 PM
01/23/16 01:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,067
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,067
Niles , Ohio
Is it the right stat.There are 2 one large one small.Is it leaking or seeping.Big difference.The surfaces must be real clean.I use a new gasket and a thin film of brown Permatex.Never had a leak and I did a bunch at home and the shop.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: therocks] #1996948
01/23/16 01:13 PM
01/23/16 01:13 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
F
f2502011 Offline OP
enthusiast
f2502011  Offline OP
enthusiast
F

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
Originally Posted By therocks
Is it the right stat.There are 2 one large one small.Is it leaking or seeping.Big difference.The surfaces must be real clean.I use a new gasket and a thin film of brown Permatex.Never had a leak and I did a bunch at home and the shop.Rocky


It's the large one and it's just like the one that came out except it's a 180 instead of a 160. Was really clean and dry. It's seeping out the back middle of the housing trickling down the passenger side of intake and accumulating in the front right bolt crevice. I'm going to pull it back off and use indian head shellac this time.

Last edited by f2502011; 01/23/16 01:20 PM.

1970 EK2 T/A 727
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996982
01/23/16 01:58 PM
01/23/16 01:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,067
Niles , Ohio
T
therocks Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks  Offline
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,067
Niles , Ohio
Check the housing.They can crack pretty easy at times.That and Ive seen whee the stat shifts a bit and keeps it from sealing.Rocky


Chrysler Firepower
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996989
01/23/16 02:05 PM
01/23/16 02:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
I would run the housing over a flat file...they can tend to warp, etc.

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1996991
01/23/16 02:05 PM
01/23/16 02:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,040
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,040
Lincoln Nebraska
I've had more trouble with leaking stat housings than anything else I've ever dealt with. Get a new WIDE gasket. Wouldn't hurt to drawfile the housing and the flange it sets on (put a rag inside to catch the shavings). with it installed you should be able to reach in the neck & grab the "arch" & move it a bit which tells you the stat is in the recess tho I dont see that as an issue here but I do check that. On one I had to use "the right stuff" ON a gasket to get it to seal & that is a gasket maker itself in a can, just a real light coat to get a good seal. Still ain't figured out why that piece is so problematic as you'd think it'd be the exact opposite considering its nature. I think using or cutting a new wide gasket is the key & some cement of course


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: therocks] #1996998
01/23/16 02:09 PM
01/23/16 02:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Supercuda Offline
About to go away
Supercuda  Offline
About to go away

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Run a draw file across the housing to see if it's flat as well. If you need a replacement, stay away from chromed ones, they don't last.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1997076
01/23/16 03:51 PM
01/23/16 03:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 360
Ohio
shorthorse Offline
enthusiast
shorthorse  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 360
Ohio
Like many others I fought that issue too many times. I went to a Billet Specialties housing with an O-ring. They have a nice thick base to prevent warping. I don't use any sealer and I haven't had any leaks. I've had three of them on three different race cars. If you don't have to have a stock looking housing, these are great.

T-housing.jpg
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1997362
01/23/16 11:25 PM
01/23/16 11:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,066
Eugene, Oregon
M
minivan Offline
master
minivan  Offline
master
M

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,066
Eugene, Oregon
terrysautolab.com

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: shorthorse] #1997606
01/24/16 12:34 PM
01/24/16 12:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,196
Harrisburg, Pa.
screamindriver Offline
master
screamindriver  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,196
Harrisburg, Pa.
Originally Posted By shorthorse
Like many others I fought that issue too many times. I went to a Billet Specialties housing with an O-ring. They have a nice thick base to prevent warping. I don't use any sealer and I haven't had any leaks. I've had three of them on three different race cars. If you don't have to have a stock looking housing, these are great.



That's a good housing.. I've used the O ring style and have found that over time even those will weep from expansion/contraction..Now if I use that style I add a little RVT to help the sealing duties ... twocents

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1997614
01/24/16 12:55 PM
01/24/16 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,581
md
M
mopars4ever Offline
I Live Here
mopars4ever  Offline
I Live Here
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,581
md
Put a NOS factory housing or the cast iron one from NAPA and forget all the fancy stuff.

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: mopars4ever] #1997662
01/24/16 02:06 PM
01/24/16 02:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,040
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,040
Lincoln Nebraska
I used the NAPA cast iron one & the width of the flange was thinner than I woulda liked but it did seal with a very thin/even coat of "the right stuff" gasket maker on a cut (wider than OE) piece of gasket material (+ drawfiling both). the nipple has no raised hose barb so I ground one as this is a high psi app & its thick enough there to easily do so. EDIT I think the narrow flanges and slight warpage is the problem cause. If one of those chrome ones has a wide flange (& the barb) I'd like to try one & sand off the chrome/get it flat

Last edited by RapidRobert; 01/24/16 02:15 PM.

live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #1997710
01/24/16 03:36 PM
01/24/16 03:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
F
f2502011 Offline OP
enthusiast
f2502011  Offline OP
enthusiast
F

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 364
US
Appreciate all the input and suggestions. Thing is, it sealed before not sure why it wouldn't again if I can get it done right. I've reinstalled the oem one and used Indian head shellac. We'll see. I do wonder how long I should let it dry?


1970 EK2 T/A 727
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #2000306
01/28/16 09:32 AM
01/28/16 09:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 277
Palmyra, NY
6
63stabamatic Offline
enthusiast
63stabamatic  Offline
enthusiast
6

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 277
Palmyra, NY
FWIW. My 69 GTX 440 stat housing leaked when I first got it. The housing bolts were too long and bottoming out before they tightened.

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #2000339
01/28/16 11:15 AM
01/28/16 11:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,581
md
M
mopars4ever Offline
I Live Here
mopars4ever  Offline
I Live Here
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,581
md
Yes,also make sure that the bolts holes are cleaned out and not full of old sealer, corrosion etc. that would keep the bolts from going down tight.

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: screamindriver] #2000378
01/28/16 12:44 PM
01/28/16 12:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 360
Ohio
shorthorse Offline
enthusiast
shorthorse  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 360
Ohio

[/quote] That's a good housing.. I've used the O ring style and have found that over time even those will weep from expansion/contraction..Now if I use that style I add a little RVT to help the sealing duties ... twocents [/quote]

I could see that happening but mine are on race cars and they don't get the amount of running time that a street car would have. I know my first one has to be about 8-10 years old and is still holding. I can see where the o-ring could get hard and brittle. They sell replacement o-rings. Have you ever tried that?

Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: f2502011] #2000506
01/28/16 03:50 PM
01/28/16 03:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,004
U.S.S.A.
JohnRR Offline
I Win
JohnRR  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 75,004
U.S.S.A.
Originally Posted By f2502011
Appreciate all the input and suggestions. Thing is, it sealed before not sure why it wouldn't again if I can get it done right. I've reinstalled the oem one and used Indian head shellac. We'll see. I do wonder how long I should let it dry?


Did you check to make sure it was flat or did you just ignore that suggestion?

They do warp over time and you can tighten the bolts all you want, if it's cupped it will not seal.

Why did it seal before ?? thicker gasket, more sealer that was allowed to fully cure before coolant being added again ?


running up my post count some more .
Re: Thermostat Housing Leak after Thermostat Replacement [Re: OzHemi] #2000636
01/28/16 07:18 PM
01/28/16 07:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,840
The Swamp
S
Sixpak Offline
master
Sixpak  Offline
master
S

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,840
The Swamp
Originally Posted By OzHemi
I would run the housing over a flat file...they can tend to warp, etc.
iagree They do get warped and/or pitted. Also, make sure the t-stat fits in the recesses of the thermostat housing (not too wide). Chrome housings have a tendency to leak too - sand the chrome off on the gasket sealing surface.

Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1