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A-body fastener master kit? Paint color reference guide? #1955201
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Who sells an A-body fastener kit? I have checked the usual places and can't fine one. The car is a Demon.

Also, is there a paint color reference guide for these cars? Something that shows what parts were dipped, sprayed, or left bare, and what the correct color would be?

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You need to be a little clearer on what type fastener kit. Inside car ,outside car, what? Year-One use to have A-body kits, don`t know if they still do.

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Complete body and under hood kit. An interior kit wouldn't hurt either.

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Most anybody who sells a fastener kit is re-selling an AMK kit with markup. Go to amkproducts.com > pdf catalog > pages 196-201. The kits won't be 100% correct for your car, just correct for some Chrysler application - there were too many fastener vendors to offer each and every item from every vendor.

It may be better to restore your own fasteners and buy the shortages from the bulk catalog pages before page 196, unless a certain kit is exactly what you want.

Nearly all machine screws and bolts were high strength Grade 5 or higher with maker's marks, but many Phillips head tapping screws were generic and can be replaced with hardware store generic or re-plated.

Mostly the bare parts were in the drive train and suspension: control arms, transmission, drive shaft, center section, springs, spring hangers/shackles, U bolts, shock plates. Verify, but probably all your small brackets that are black were dip painted in the same sg black enamel on water. The K frame and axle housing were spray painted sg black. Most people agree Chrysler used gloss black for the dip and spray that soon went dull, so sg black is accepted as correct.


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I've used these folks

https://mrgusa.com/

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To the best of my knowledge no one makes what you would call a complete master fastener kit, that would cover everything on/in an entire car. There would still be a occasional fastener you would need to buy individually sometimes. Example,You can buy a complete interior kit but it won`t have headliner clips with it. You can buy a complete exterior kit, but it would not have say rocker panel fasteners, and so on. Try Tom Race @ R/T Specialty. He sells a lot of mopar fasteners you can't find elsewhere. He use to have a website.

Re: A-body fastener master kit? Paint color reference guide? [Re: tman] #1955896
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Originally Posted By tman
I've used these folks

https://mrgusa.com/


It looks like they can supply most of what I need, Thanks! up

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You bet. Screws are individually packaged and labeled so you know where they go.

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Yep, too bad most aren't even close to the originals, but they work. Dave Wise has guides but has not done the A-Body manuals yet. tsk

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Re: A-body fastener master kit? Paint color reference guide? [Re: gss] #1956661
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If you don't have the originals for your car to refer to the next best thing is to buy a parts car from the same year, plant, and time of production and refer to or steal them off of it as needed.

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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
If you don't have the originals for your car to refer to the next best thing is to buy a parts car from the same year, plant, and time of production and refer to or steal them off of it as needed.


That would be nice. The problem is most of these old cars have been messed with and have the wrong fasteners so you still don't know what is correct. If the car has reached "parts car" status, then it is probably worse off than my car. Mine isn't too bad, but it would be nice not to have to research, de-rust, strip, and plate or paint each bolt.

I've been thinking of trying a vibratory tumbler to restore the hardware. Any experience with those?

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That would be nice. The problem is most of these old cars have been messed with and have the wrong fasteners so you still don't know what is correct. If the car has reached "parts car" status, then it is probably worse off than my car. Mine isn't too bad, but it would be nice not to have to research, de-rust, strip, and plate or paint each bolt.

I've been thinking of trying a vibratory tumbler to restore the hardware. Any experience with those?


Yes I understand, but I practice what I preach (I have two parts Dusters for my own project Duster). There's no easy out (even if there were a fastener manual).

Yes, I use tumblers a lot, good tools. The media is the key, different media for different purposes, like anything, experimenting will guide you.

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If you live in the better weather parts of the country you can probably find A body's in the JY.

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I will keep an eye out for a parts car.

There has to be some accepted info on color and finishes of the major components floating around. Any direction would be appreciated up

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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms

Great build threads, I don't know how I missed those realcrazy

Yes, this is the start of my research. I hate to reinvent the wheel. It sounds like what you are really saying is don't expect someone to volunteer that top secret information.... tsk

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It's not top secret, the details vary with every car. You'll find many of tips you'll need on the above threads. There is no "book" or individual with all the answers you are seeking.







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