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Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1953745 11/18/15 03:45 PM 11/18/15 03:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><]	I hope that was effective. That should have heated the outside of the block plenty, not sure about the cylinder wall. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: I had to be sure [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1953751 11/18/15 03:54 PM 11/18/15 03:54 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda I hope that was effective. That should have heated the outside of the block plenty, not sure about the cylinder wall. The water in the block did the heat transfer very well. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1953753 11/18/15 03:56 PM 11/18/15 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	If it's not a crack... What caused the big rust spot? If it were me, I wouldn't be putting this thing back together until I knew the answer to that question.

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1953755 11/18/15 03:57 PM 11/18/15 03:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Originally Posted By Clanton Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda I hope that was effective. That should have heated the outside of the block plenty, not sure about the cylinder wall. The water in the block did the heat transfer very well. Good. I didn't know you had the block filled w/ water. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: I had to be sure [Re: dizuster] #1953761 11/18/15 04:16 PM 11/18/15 04:16 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Originally Posted By dizuster If it's not a crack... What caused the big rust spot? If it were me, I wouldn't be putting this thing back together until I knew the answer to that question. In my perspective I have satisfied reasonable doubt that is will leak again from anything other than a head gasket. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1953968 11/18/15 10:34 PM 11/18/15 10:34 PM
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dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Look... It's your motor...so you obviously can do what you want. So just know everyone is just trying to help. But even if it leaked from the head, how did the water defy gravity and pool up and rust on the side of the bore?

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1953996 11/18/15 11:32 PM 11/18/15 11:32 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	I appreciate the help don't get me wrong.You pose a good question but we may never find out also.I may have missed that spot looking after the last hone someone did and the rings just never got it and it rusted. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1954021 11/19/15 12:02 AM 11/19/15 12:02 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,854 MI, usa	How would the rings or hone not touch every area on a round and straight bore? Are you saying the rusted area was hollow (concave)? Doug

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1954024 11/19/15 12:06 AM 11/19/15 12:06 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Yes! GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: dvw] #1954029 11/19/15 12:11 AM 11/19/15 12:11 AM
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Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Originally Posted By dvw How would the rings or hone not touch every area on a round and straight bore? Are you saying the rusted area was hollow (concave)? Doug That is what was causing a ton of crank case pressure the blowby in that area.I was getting a lot of oil from the valley tray every run. Last edited by Clanton; 11/19/15 12:13 AM. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1954035 11/19/15 12:16 AM 11/19/15 12:16 AM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,854 MI, usa	How on earth do you hone a new block into a hollow? No way. It was straight when it was honed if the stones touched. I'm assuming this was a new Koleno block honed with a real hone, not ball hone. If it's hollow the bore moved, a lot. Why? How far over did it have to go to clean up? .010", .020", .030"? Doug

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #1954044 11/19/15 12:23 AM 11/19/15 12:23 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	This was the 3rd or 4th bore on the new block and only .001 to clean it up. Last edited by Clanton; 11/19/15 12:25 AM. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #2049264 04/07/16 10:20 PM 04/07/16 10:20 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	Time to file fit new rings in the fresh bore.Speed Pro R-19103 35 Hellfire rings.I have a bench top hand ring filer and a fine file.[I will gap them .030 to .032] GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #2049277 04/07/16 10:33 PM 04/07/16 10:33 PM
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Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Originally Posted By Clanton I got the block re honed after finding this and had to be sure. Hows the hone job look now? That prior hone looks terrible, as does the rust spot. Nice pressure test set up though.

Re: I had to be sure [Re: Clanton] #2049283 04/07/16 10:36 PM 04/07/16 10:36 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA C Clanton OP master
Clanton OP master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,489 northern,Ohio,USA	The pattern is good on the new hone and I checked it with a dial bore gauge. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

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