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1972 Road Runner fender engine callout #1942124
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Working on a 72 Road Runner / GTX. The car has an Air Grabber hood.
I am not sure if there should be an engine call out on the fender.
Dave Patik of Performance Car Graphics says that there should be one but I can not find it anywhere in the Factory parts book so that leads me to believe there would not be one.
Some others say there should be one and, if there is one, should it be on the lower rear fender below the GTX emblem?

Picture of original cars or a factory engineering drawing would be awesome!!!!

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i am no expert but i do own a 72 roadrunner with a air grabber hood.
they put 400 engine decals on the fenders above the side markers on 72 roadrunners with air grabber hood. my car had one when i bought it 20+ years ago.
I am not sure about a 440 in the same spot on the gtx.

I think there should be a gtx emblem on the 1/4 panel above the lower body line by the door.
i have seen road runner emblems in this spot also on gtx's. i don't know if it's correct.
and i don't think there were any engine decals or emblems on the 1/4's at all.

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Originally Posted By Mr T2U
they put 400 engine decals on the fenders above the side markers on 72 roadrunners with air grabber hood.
I am not sure about a 440 in the same spot on the gtx.

I am no expert but I think there is a gtx emblem on the 1/4 panel above the lower body line by the door. and no engine decals or emblems on the 1/4's. gtx decal on the right side of the trunk lid


Show me where they show the engine callouts on a 72 in chrysler paperwork or parts book pages. I have never seen it and have had and looked at numerous cars that do not have them. Other than ones put on by owners or dealers when they were new.

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like i said I AM NO EXPERT.
there was a 400 decal above the side marker on my 72 road runner with a air grabber hood when i bought it 20+ years ago.


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I too am "working" on a '72 RR/GTX. Is there ANY factory paperwork mentioning the 1972 440-GTX & Road Runner relationship? scope

I've always wondered if the "V-code" '72 is a RR/GTX. Never heard it described that way. work
There could also be St. Louis VS. Windsor and early/late differences.

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St. Louis assembly

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Re: 1972 Road Runner fender engine callout [Re: magnumautoresto] #1942235
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Dan, This is the 72 V code car I am working on.....Would almost have to be a RR/GTX as that is the only way to get a 440 in 72, correct?
As for your research, are your above pics of an original paint car?
This car had been painted earlier in life so that history is gone.
Just doing some addition research on this in a 1976 Mitchell crash book. Only shows the engine call out decal in 1971, does not show it for 72.

Mark

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The HT6 4-spd GTX is the car that Gas Monkey had & was not original paint. I believe the green 4-spd GTX is/was original paint, it was on eBay ~8 years ago. scope

RM23U2G172XXX-1.jpgRM23U2G172XXX-3.jpgRM23U2G172XXX-6.jpgRM23U2G172XXX-7.jpg
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The Chrysler 1970-72 Collision Parts catalog also shows NO 1972 fender engine "call-out" decals shock it also doesn't show any hood/fender Road Runner "tank tracks". (& the are NOT on the hood page/section either)

70-72 crash book photo rr-gtx fender.jpg
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The driver's side of the FE5 GTX was original paint, it's a 60K mile car out of Idaho.

FE5 72 GTX original paint fender 440.jpg
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It looks like the FE5 fender also had blackout below the rocker molding....Do you believe that is original?
Looks like it was painted after the rocker clips were installed.

So, are you putting the call outs on that car?

Mark

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Yes & Yes (already purchased from PCG thumbs) - the owner took a pic of that fender this morning for me, I can check it out on Monday for more confirmation.

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blush stolen from Hamtramck-Historical up when was this published?

I just wonder how the timing of: NO more GTXs, NO more 440-6bbls - a car "scheduled" 3-1/2 weeks into production of the new model year, on a Saturday ..... hidden, I mean sent off to ASC for a sunroof conversion - just how exactly did someone make that happen?

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I think the engine call out refers to the fact that the 400 engine decal on the rr hood had no numbers on it. It was blank

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Good evidence there. Does not specifically say on fender but can we assume if they could not put it on the hood they would put it on the fender?

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Another claimed original paint shot;


1972 Road Runner GTX 440 6bbl 5-speed
[img]http://72rrgtx.com/carpics/bucket/DSC06730r-1.jpg[/img]
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The stripe too?

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Moved to behind the wheel opening for 72 per the factory document.

1971 RR GTX fender engine callouts.jpg

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Those engine callouts are for a 71? And why dont they show in any parts book?

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71 and 72. The factory document was created for 71 but updated for 72 (look at the revisions at the bottom). If you notice the text under "view in circle Y" it indicates "typical 2/M-23 location" meaning 72 M-23.


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Originally Posted By Moparlar
The stripe too?


No, that's the 440 sunroof car. The gold stripe was added (and the air grabber painted gold) at some time.

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